1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:38 am UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:Hi, thunk! Good to see you. Congratulations on graduating and on starting your math PhD. I'm sure that has you doing lots of RUNning, and occasionally some Waiting for It as well.

It sounds like both the sea and the wind are doing what they want right now, and it's rather *ndish. Unlike in the OTC, it is definitely getting winder there. I wonder how SBN is doing? Although I think xe''s further south of where the storm made landfall. Not sure what other OTTers are over there. Sending molpish thoughts to all in the path of the storm. :(

In somewhat RELATED news, it looks like in bsta it will soon be time to PANIC!


SBN had more leaves in the pool than usual, that is all. I'm in NE FL, so clear on the other side of the state. The parts that got hit though, took a big hit.

Congratulations, thunk.

In other news, did all y'all hear about the geyser?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:45 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:09 am UTC

SBN wrote:In other news, did all y'all hear about the geyser?
Nope. Is the sea deciding to do what it wants, under ground?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:04 pm UTC

Well, I saw this really old guy yesterday...oh wait, that''s a geezer. :)
I'm guessing you're referring to this.

In which an underground river decided it wanted to be above ground, and revealed that the people from the hills who throw things at people decided to throw things into a geyser instead.

Edited because, no matter how hard I try, I can't put URLs in my posts successfully when suing my MTA. TBH, I have a hard time doing much of anything from my MTA, which is old and sucks.

Also, I once again hit quote instead of edit, but fortunately caught it quickly. :roll:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:33 pm UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:Well, I saw this really old guy yesterday...oh wait, that''s a geezer. :)
I'm guessing you're referring to this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yellowstone-geyser-erupts-spews-decades-old-trash-2018-10-06/

In which an underground river decided it wanted to be above ground, and revealed that the people from the hills who throw things at people decided to throw things into a geyser instead.


Yep.
Not completely sure making an exhibit of the trash will convince people not to throw things in.
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Re: 1190: Time for Physics – phys-0032

Postby rezilibaniatsuS » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:00 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:28 am UTC

Like a riverish wowtree2,8?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:49 pm UTC

rezilibaniatsuS wrote:THE FIRST RULE OF SANDISHNESS IS, YOU DON'GT TALK ABOUT SANDISHNESS -- ongomome
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:06 am UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:In somewhat RELATED news, it looks like in bsta it will soon be time to PANIC!
Or maybe not.
Panic!
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You're still too shocked to switch to panic mode now.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:36 am UTC

SBN wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Well, I saw this really old guy yesterday...oh wait, that''s a geezer. :)
I'm guessing you're referring to this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yellowstone-geyser-erupts-spews-decades-old-trash-2018-10-06/

In which an underground river decided it wanted to be above ground, and revealed that the people from the hills who throw things at people decided to throw things into a geyser instead.


Yep.
Not completely sure making an exhibit of the trash will convince people not to throw things in.

Hm, that's a good point. They do make great pains to point out that you should not throw things in the geyser, but people have to read those warnings. Much easier to look at those old coins and say, "Hey, if i throw someone in it, maybe they'll find it in 80 years!"

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lmjb1964 wrote:In somewhat RELATED news, it looks like in bsta it will soon be time to PANIC!
Or maybe not.
Panic!
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You're still too shocked to switch to panic mode now.

Is the blue dot important, or is it m*stard, I wonder?

Continuing the other ONGoing storu....
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:52 am UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:Is the blue dot important, or is it m*stard, I wonder?
If you look at previous frames you will see similar things.
They are a natural effect of how bsta (and bftf) frames are made.
If anyone ever wants to make a realistic time after bsta for some reason, please remember about this :)

lmjb1964 wrote:Much easier to look at those old coins and say, "Hey, if i throw someone in it, maybe they'll find it in 80 years!"
Don't throw people into coins!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:54 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:
lmjb1964 wrote:Is the blue dot important, or is it m*stard, I wonder?
If you look at previous frames you will see similar things.
They are a natural effect of how bsta (and bftf) frames are made.
If anyone ever wants to make a realistic time after bsta for some reason, please remember about this :)

Do you mean a counterfeit bsta? Or realistic as in not like a cartoon? Like this frame, maybe? :)

In any case, 230 nopix is a long time to wait to find out what happens. :( Good thing we have lots of practice at waiting( for it)!

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lmjb1964 wrote:Much easier to look at those old coins and say, "Hey, if i throw someone in it, maybe they'll find it in 80 years!"
Don't throw people into coins!

Or coins into people!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:17 pm UTC

Hello everymolpy... just peeking in because of something I read and saw today:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/mos ... rain-cells

It did remind me of one version of the Constellations of Time I did some years ago, that looked kinda like a brain.
For whom the whole thing is tl;dr: It's the organized coal thinking bag of a rather tiny fruit flyply.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:36 pm UTC

Hi, Sciscitor! That is awesomeful indeed, as was your original Constellation of TIme.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:09 am UTC

Wait on.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:22 pm UTC

Sciscitor wrote:It did remind me of one version of the Constellations of Time I did some years ago, that looked kinda like a brain.
I remember those; yes, they were very much like a brain. Or a Brian. I wonder what such a plot would look like nowadays... much smaller I fear.

Perhaps this holds a clue to consciousness - the OTT is taking a nap as more Brian cells migrate to the basement. Hopefully it's not a long pint nap. :)

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Re: Cueball, Meg, and the Time of Rationality, by D. Nuts

Postby thunk » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:10 am UTC

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Any graph with big enough connections should look rather similar I'd think.

And like the bsta people, I'm also too shocked to panic. That's not the time for panic. It's best to panic when absolutely nothing bad is going on ohdearohch*rp---
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:27 pm UTC

Wait on.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:13 am UTC

ZoomanSP wrote:New OtherComic.


Friendly reminder that my Newpixometers for Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux are still working, even if there are no longer newpix for them to measure.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:11 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:Newpixometers for Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux are still working
The "Ubuntu Linux" one is actually a python script so I tried it even without having an "Ubuntu Linux" availabe.
It looks like an "X" inside a rectangle.
I think this is not the intended appearance.
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Newpixometer:18: Warning: /build/glib2.0-YYXhFA/glib2.0-2.50.3/./gobject/gsignal.c:2523: signal 'child-added' is invalid for instance '0x21aa0e8' of type 'GtkMenu'
  self.ind.set_menu(self.menu)


And the big questiONG of physics,
why these theories don't like each other?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:52 pm UTC

The new ONGs wrote:Unfortunately, both theories don't go well together.
The sea is big. It does what it wants.
When a tree is big, it knows what it's doing.
But the sea is not a tree.

So, there's something very small that is fighting the sea, and the sea doesn't like it, but maybe it doesn't know what it's doing.

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1190: Time: I MADE YOU AN EQUIMOLPY, BUT I ****DED IT

Postby mrob27 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:22 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:(↶p4400807)The "Ubuntu Linux" one is actually a python script so I tried it [...]


You might prefer this Perl script. It's all text, uses no external libraries and as a bonus there's code you can strip out to make a general-purpose ASCII banner text generator :D

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#!/usr/bin/perl
#
$bapropos = q@
newpixometer(1r) -- Newpix clock
@;

$help = q`
NAME

  newpixometer   -- Newpix clock

DESCRIPTION

This script uses ASCII graphics to shows the time in Newpix, updating
every millinewpix.

OPTIONS

Supply the argument 'now' to just get the current time in UNIX, GMT/UTC
(ISO basic format), and Newpix units.

To perform conversions, supply a UNIX time to convert that time to
newpix units:

  newpixometer 1403292576

or supply a newpix time to convert to UNIX and ISO formats:

  newpixometer 11367.74

or supply an 8-digit date, or a 12- or 14-digit date/time (in UTC/GMT):

  newpixometer 20140626
  newpixometer 20140626.2047

With either of these options the clock will exit immediately and *not*
emit any terminal-control characters or ASCII graphics.

SEE ALSO

  bbanner        - Display short messages in ASCII graphics
  timer          - clock, stopwatch or countdown using ASCII banner text
  unixtime       - Convert from UNIX time to human-readable dates
`;

my $unused_block_header = q`

REVISION HISTORY

 20140414 First version.
 20140417 Erase previous display each time; change ~ to macron
 20140626 Add options to convert a UNIX time or a date/time
 20140706 Add 'now' option and treat smaller numeric values as a Newpix
time to be converted to UNIX time.
 20140707 Switch to GMT for heretical date output, since Newpix and
UNIX time are both GMT-defined.
 20181018 Converted to standalone script by adding all the needed
subroutines

`;

# ymd_to.julian converts ($year, $month, $day) to Julian date (days since the
# Julian epoch, Jan. 1 4713 BCE in the propleptic Julian calendar)
#
# Source:
#   http://quasar.as.utexas.edu/BillInfo/JulianDatesG.html
#   19980126-Jefferys-Julian-Date.txt
#
# For the opposite conversion, use &julian.to_ymd
#
# Examples:
#
#  $apollo11 = &ymd_to_julian(1969, 7, 20);
#  $today_jd = &ymd_to_julian(&parse_date1(&date1(0))); # today's julian date:
#
sub ymd_to_julian
{
  my($year, $month, $day) = @_;
  my($a, $b, $c, $e, $f, $jd);

  if ($month < 3) {
    $year--;
    $month += 12;
  }
  $a = int($year / 100);
  $b = int($a/4);
  $c = 2 - $a + $b;
  $e = int(365.25 * ($year + 4716));
  $f = int(30.6001 * ($month + 1));
  $jd = $c + $day + $e + $f - 1524;
  # print " yyyy $year mm $month dd $day a $a b $b c $c e $e f $f jd $jd\n";

  return($jd);
} # End of ymd.to_julian

# Given a date and time as 6 separate fields, returns the number of
# "Julian seconds".
#
# For the opposite conversion, use jsecs.to_dt3 followed by parse.dt_tm
sub ymdhms_to_jsecs
{
  my($yr, $mo, $da, $hr, $mi, $se) = @_;
  my $rv;

  $rv = (86400 * &ymd_to_julian($yr, $mo, $da))
      + (3600 * ($hr-12)) + (60 * $mi) + $se;

  return $rv;
}

# This is like ymdhms_to_unixtime, but the ymdhms is in universal time (GMT).
#
# For the opposite conversion, use gmt.date3 followed by parse.dt_tm.
sub gmt_ymdhms_to_unixtime
{
  my($yr, $mo, $da, $hr, $mi, $se) = @_;
  my($ubase, $rv);

  $ubase = &ymdhms_to_jsecs(1970, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0);
  $rv = &ymdhms_to_jsecs($yr, $mo, $da, $hr, $mi, $se) - $ubase;

  return $rv;
}

# Given an 8-digit date in YYYYMMDD format, returns the year, month and day
# as a 3-element vector.
#
# Example usage: to get today's year month and date:
#
#   ($yyyy, $mm, $dd) = &parse_date1(&date1(0));
#
# To parse a 4-digit date like "0427" (returning the nearest such day) use
# parse.date2
sub parse_date1
{
  my($d8) = @_;
  my($y, $m, $d);

  if ($d8 =~ m|([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])([0-9][0-9])([0-9][0-9])|) {
    $y = $1; $m = $2; $d = $3;
  }

  return($y, $m, $d);
} # End of parse.date1

# parse.dt_tm is like parse.date1, but handles formats like "YYYYMMDD.hh:mm"
# and "YYYYMMDD.hhmmss". (In fact it handles any number of digits after the
# ".", adding extra zeros as needed). It returns the year, month, date, hour,
# minute and second as separate quantities.
#
# Example usage: to get current date and time:
#
#   ($yyyy, $mm, $dd, $hr, $min, $sec) = &parse_dt_tm(&date3(time));
sub parse_dt_tm
{
  my($dt) = @_;
  my($yr, $mo, $da, $hr, $mi, $se);
  my ($ymd, $rv);
  my $d2 = "[0-9][0-9]";
  my $d8 = $d2 x 4;

  $yr = $mo = $da = $hr = $mi = $se = 0;

  if (!($dt =~ m/\./)) {
    $dt .= ".";
  }
  $dt .= "000000";
  $dt =~ s/://g;

  if ($dt =~ m|($d8)\.($d2)($d2)($d2)|) {
    $ymd = $1; $hr = $2; $mi = $3; $se = $4;
    ($yr, $mo, $da) = &parse_date1($ymd);
  }

  return ($yr, $mo, $da, $hr, $mi, $se);
} # End of parse.dt_tm

# This is like dt3_to.unixtime, but the  8-, 12- or 14-digit date is
# in universal time (GMT).
#
# For the opposite conversion, use gmt.date3.
sub gmt_dt3_to_unixtime
{
  my($dt) = @_;
  return &gmt_ymdhms_to_unixtime(&parse_dt_tm($dt));
}

# gmt.date3 is like date.3, but returns Universal Time (GMT).
#
# For the opposite conversion use gmt_dt3_to.unixtime, or parse.dt_tm
# followed by gmt_ymdhms_to.unixtime.
sub gmt_date3
{
  my($tm, $numeric) = @_;
  my($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst);
  my($l, $fmt);

  ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst) = gmtime($tm);
  if (($tm > 0) && ($year < 71)) {
    # Perl's gmtime has a year 2038 problem.
    ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year) = locltime($tm, 0);
  }

  if ($numeric == 1) {
    $fmt = "%04d%02d%02d.%02d%02d%02d";
  } elsif ($numeric > 0) {
    # Format like that used with 'touch -t' (note that #touch# expects
    # a local date/time)
    $fmt = "%04d%02d%02d%02d%02d.%02d";
  } elsif ($numeric eq 'YYYYMMDD.HHMM') {
    $fmt = "%04d%02d%02d.%02d%02d";
  } elsif ($numeric eq 'MMDD.HHMM') {
    $fmt = "%02d%02d.%02d%02d";
    $l = sprintf($fmt, $mon+1, $mday, $hour, $min, $sec);
    return $l;
  } else {
    $fmt = "%04d%02d%02d.%02d:%02d:%02d";
  }
  $l = sprintf($fmt, 1900 + $year, $mon+1, $mday, $hour, $min, $sec);

  return $l;
} # End of gmt.date3

# The character '~' is used instead of '^' because in the ASCII standard
# these two characters are intended to be overprints for accent marks, and
# in this usage the '~' more closely approximates the desired form.
#
# BEGIN_BANNER_DATA
$banner[1] = '';
$banner[2] = '';
$banner[3] = '';
$banner[4] = '';
$banner[5] = '';

$banner[1] .= '..0.  _  ';  # 0 is all by itself because of the '\'
$banner[2] .= '..0. / \ ';  # in this line (must be in single-quotes,
$banner[3] .= '..0. \ / ';  # so can't be with digits 1 and 2)
$banner[4] .= "..0.  ~  ";
$banner[5] .= "..0.     ";

$banner[1] .= '..1.  _  ..2.  _  ..3. __  ..4.     ';
$banner[2] .= "..1. '|  ..2. ' ) ..3.  _) ..4. | | ";
$banner[3] .= '..1.  |  ..2.  /  ..3.   ) ..4. `-+ ';
$banner[4] .= "..1. '~` ..2. ~~~ ..3. ~~  ..4.   ' ";
$banner[5] .= "..1.     ..2.     ..3.     ..4.     ";

$banner[1] .= '..5. ___ ..6.  _  ..7. ___ ..8.  _  ..9.  _  ';
$banner[2] .= "..5. |_  ..6. /_` ..7.   / ..8. (_) ..9. (_| ";
$banner[3] .= '..5. , ) ..6. \ ) ..7.  /  ..8. ( ) ..9.   | ';
$banner[4] .= "..5.  ~  ..6.  ~  ..7. ~   ..8.  ~  ..9.  ~  ";
$banner[5] .= "..5.     ..6.     ..7.     ..8.     ..9.     ";

$banner[1] .= '..A.  _  ..B. __  ..C.  _  ..D. __  ..E. ___ ..F. ___ ';
$banner[2] .= '..A. / \ ..B. |_) ..C. / ` ..D. | \ ..E. |_  ..F. |_  ';
$banner[3] .= '..A. |~| ..B. | ) ..C. \ , ..D. | / ..E. |   ..F. |   ';
$banner[4] .= '..A. ~ ~ ..B. ~~  ..C.  ~  ..D. ~~  ..E. ~~~ ..F. ~   ';
$banner[5] .= '..A.     ..B.     ..C.     ..D.     ..E.     ..F.     ';

$banner[1] .= '..G.  _  ..H. _ _ ..I. _ ..J.   _ ..K. _ _ ..L. _   ..M. _  _ ';
$banner[2] .= '..G. / ` ..H. |_| ..I. | ..J.   | ..K. |/  ..L. |   ..M. |\/| ';
$banner[3] .= '..G. \ T ..H. | | ..I. | ..J. , | ..K. |\  ..L. | , ..M. |  | ';
$banner[4] .= '..G.  ~  ..H. ~ ~ ..I. ~ ..J.  ~  ..K. ~ ~ ..L. ~~~ ..M. ~  ~ ';
$banner[5] .= '..G.     ..H.     ..I.   ..J.     ..K.     ..L.     ..M.      ';

$banner[1] .= '..N. _  _ ..O.  _  ..P. __  ..Q.  _  ..R. __   ..S.  _  ';
$banner[2] .= '..N. |\ | ..O. / \ ..P. |_) ..Q. / \ ..R. |_)  ..S. (_` ';
$banner[3] .= '..N. | \| ..O. \ / ..P. |   ..Q. \ / ..R. | \  ..S. , ) ';
$banner[4] .= '..N. ~  ~ ..O.  ~  ..P. ~   ..Q.  ~` ..R. ~  ~ ..S.  ~  ';
$banner[5] .= '..N.      ..O.     ..P.     ..Q.     ..R.      ..S.     ';

$banner[1] .= '..T. ___ ..U. _ _ ..V. _  _ ..W. _  _ ..X. _  _ ';
$banner[2] .= '..T.  |  ..U. | | ..V. | /  ..W. |  | ..X.  \/  ';
$banner[3] .= '..T.  |  ..U. \ / ..V. |/   ..W. |/\| ..X.  /\  ';
$banner[4] .= '..T.  ~  ..U.  ~  ..V. ~    ..W. ~  ~ ..X. ~  ~ ';
$banner[5] .= '..T.     ..U.     ..V.      ..W.      ..X.      ';

$banner[1] .= '..Y. _  _ ..Z. ___ ';
$banner[2] .= '..Y.  \/  ..Z.   / ';
$banner[3] .= '..Y.  |   ..Z.  /  ';
$banner[4] .= '..Y.  ~   ..Z. ~~~ ';
$banner[5] .= '..Y.      ..Z.     ';

$banner[1] .= '..a.     ..b. _   ..c.    ..d.   _ ..e.     ..f.  _ ';
$banner[2] .= '..a. ._  ..b. |_  ..c.  _ ..d.  _| ..e.  _  ..f. |_ ';
$banner[3] .= '..a. ,-| ..b. | ) ..c. (  ..d. ( | ..e. (-` ..f. |  ';
$banner[4] .= "..a. `~` ..b. '~  ..c.  ~ ..d.  ~` ..e.  ~' ..f. ~  ";
$banner[5] .= "..a.     ..b.     ..c.    ..d.     ..e.     ..f.    ";

$banner[1] .= '..g.     ..h. _   ..i.   ..j.    ';
$banner[2] .= '..g.  _  ..h. |_  ..i. " ..j.  " ';
$banner[3] .= '..g. (_| ..h. | | ..i. | ..j.  | ';
$banner[4] .= '..g.   | ..h. ~ ~ ..i. ~ ..j. \/ ';
$banner[5] .= '..g.  ~  ..h.     ..i.   ..j.    ';

$banner[1] .= '..k.     ..l.   ..m.       ';
$banner[2] .= '..k. | , ..l. | ..m. ._ _  ';
$banner[3] .= '..k. |<  ..l. | ..m. | | | ';
$banner[4] .= '..k. ~ ~ ..l. ~ ..m. ~ ~ ~ ';
$banner[5] .= '..k.     ..l.   ..m.       ';

$banner[1] .= '..n.     ..o.     ..p.     ..q.     ..r.    ..s.     ';
$banner[2] .= '..n. ._  ..o.  _  ..p. ._  ..q.  _, ..r. ._ ..s.  _  ';
$banner[3] .= '..n. | | ..o. ( ) ..p. | ) ..q. ( | ..r. |  ..s. `-, ';
$banner[4] .= '..n. ~ ~ ..o.  ~  ..p. |~  ..q.  ~| ..r. ~  ..s.  ~  ';
$banner[5] .= '..n.     ..o.     ..p. |   ..q.   | ..r.    ..s.     ';

$banner[1] .= '..t.   ..u.     ..v.    ..w.      ..x.     ';
$banner[2] .= '..t. | ..u. . . ..v. . ,..w. .  . ..x. . , ';
$banner[3] .= '..t. T ..u. | | ..v. |/ ..w. |/\| ..x.  X  ';
$banner[4] .= "..t. ` ..u.  ~  ..v. '  ..w. '  ` ..x. ' ` ";
$banner[5] .= "..t.   ..u.     ..v.    ..w.      ..x.     ";

$banner[1] .= '..y.     ..z.    ';
$banner[2] .= '..y. . . ..z. __ ';
$banner[3] .= '..y. | | ..z.  / ';
$banner[4] .= "..y.  7  ..z. ~~ ";
$banner[5] .= "..y. -'  ..z.    ";

$banner[1] .= '..". _ _ ';   # had to escape this one
$banner[2] .= '..". \' \' '; # can't see any way around it
$banner[3] .= '..".     ';
$banner[4] .= '..".     ';
$banner[5] .= '..".     ';

$banner[1] .= '.. .   ....   ..,.   ..:.   ..;.   ..\. .    ';
$banner[2] .= '.. .   ....   ..,.   ..:. o ..;. o ..\.  \   ';
$banner[3] .= '.. .   ....   ..,.   ..:.   ..;.   ..\.   \  ';
$banner[4] .= '.. .   .... " ..,. 9 ..:. " ..;. 9 ..\.    ` ';
$banner[5] .= '.. .   ....   ..,.   ..:.   ..;.   ..\.      ';

$banner[1] .= '..@.  __  ..?. _  ..!. . ..|. | ..^.  _  ';
$banner[2] .= "..@. | _| ..?.' ) ..!. | ..|. | ..^. ' ` ";
$banner[3] .= "..@. | L/ ..?. '  ..!. ' ..|. | ..^.     ";
$banner[4] .= '..@. `--  ..?. "  ..!. " ..|. | ..^.     ';
$banner[5] .= '..@.      ..?.    ..!.   ..|. | ..^.     ';

$banner[1] .= "..'. _ ..<.    ..>.    ..+.     ..#. . . ";
$banner[2] .= "..'. ' ..<.  , ..>. .  ..+.  |  ..#. +-+ ";
$banner[3] .= "..'.   ..<. <  ..>.  > ..+. ~|~ ..#. +-+ ";
$banner[4] .= "..'.   ..<.  ` ..>. '  ..+.  |  ..#. ' ' ";
$banner[5] .= "..'.   ..<.    ..>.    ..+.     ..#.     ";

$banner[1] .= '..(.  , ..). .  ../.    , ..-.     ..=.     ..&.      ';
$banner[2] .= '..(. /  ..).  \ ../.   /  ..-.     ..=. --- ..&. ()   ';
$banner[3] .= '..(. \  ..).  / ../.  /   ..-. ~~~ ..=. --- ..&. ( X  ';
$banner[4] .= "..(.  ` ..). '  ../. '    ..-.     ..=.     ..&.  ~ ` ";
$banner[5] .= "..(.    ..).    ../.      ..-.     ..=.     ..&.      ";

$banner[1] .= '..          ';
$banner[2] .= '..          ';
$banner[3] .= '..          ';
$banner[4] .= '..          ';
$banner[5] .= '..          ';

# bantext returns a banner as an array of strings. Use bantex2 if you
# want the result as a single string.
sub bantext
{
  my($in) = @_;
  my(@out, $c, $pat, $i, $in2);

  $in2 = $in;
  $out[1] = $out[2] = $out[3] = $out[4] = $out[5] = "";
  while ($in ne "") {
    $in =~ m|^(.)(.*)$|;
    $c = $1;
    $in = $2;
    $pat = $c;
    $pat = '\\' . $pat if ($pat =~ m/[.()\:\'|?+^]/);
    $pat = '\\.\\.' . $pat . '\\.([^.]+.{12})';
    if ($banner[1] =~ m|$pat|) {
      for ($i=1; $i<=5; $i++) {
        $banner[$i] =~ m|$pat|;
        $temp = $1;
        while ($temp =~ m|^(.*)\.\.|) {
          $temp = $1;
        }
        chop $temp;
        $out[$i] .= $temp;
      }
    } else {
      print $pat . "\n";
      print "Find BEGIN_BANNER_DATA, and add a definition\nfor the character \'";
      print $c;
      print "\'. (Full string was '$in2')\n";
      exit 0;
    }
  }
  return @out;
}

# bantex2 is like bantext, but returns the result as a single string.
#
# 20000304: Add (optional) noprune parameter, defaults to previous behavior.
sub bantex2
{
  my($s, $noprune) = @_;
  my(@out, $o, $i);
  @out = &bantext($s);
  $o = "";
  for ($i=1; $i<=5; $i++) {
    $o .= $out[$i];
    if ($noprune == 0) {
      $o =~ s/ *$//;
    }
    $o .= "\n";
  }
  return $o;
}

# Convert from Universal Newpix Time to UNIX (epoch 19700101 UTC).
sub np_to_unix
{
  my($np) = @_;
  my($hr);

  # Restore linear continuity in the "there is no year 0" region.
  # We fold part of the domain onto itself, and split the difference by
  # comparing input to 0 rather than to -1 or 1
  if ($np < 0.0) {
    $np -= 2.0;
  }

  # Mon, 25 Mar 2013 03:30:00 GMT (1/2 hour before frame 1 appeared)
  $hr = 1364182200
      + ($np * 1800)
      + (($np > 241) ? (($np-241) * 1800) : 0);

  return $hr;
}

# Convert from UNIX epoch to Universal Newpix Time.
sub unix_to_np
{
  my($heret) = @_;
  my($np);

  # When np == 240:
  # $hr = 1364182200 + (240 * 1800) + (0)
  #     = 1363750200 - (240 * 1800) + (240 * 3600)
  #     = 1364614200
  if ($heret > 1364616000) {
    # When np > 241:
    # $hr = 1364182200 + ($np * 1800) + (($np-241) * 1800)
    #     = 1364182200 + ($np * 1800) + ($np * 1800) - (241 * 1800)
    #     = 1363748400 + ($np * 3600)
    $np = ($heret - 1363748400) / 3600;
  } else {
    # When np <= 240:
    # $hr = 1364182200 + ($np * 1800) + (0)
    $np = ($heret - 1364182200) / 1800;
    # Produce discontinuity at (-1..1) because "there is no year 0"
    if ($np < 1.0) {
      $np -= 2.0;
    }
  }
  return $np;
}

$| = 1;

# Parse arguments
while($arg = shift) {
  if ($arg =~ m/^-[-]?h(elp)?$/) {
    print $help;
    exit(0);
  } elsif ($arg =~ m/^[0-9]{8}$/) {
    # An 8-digit date
    print sprintf("Date $arg == Newpix %.4f\n",
                                 &unix_to_np(&gmt_dt3_to_unixtime($arg)));
    exit(0);
  } elsif ($arg =~ m/^[0-9]{8}\.[:0-9]+$/) {
    # A 12- or 14-digit date
    print sprintf("Date $arg == Newpix %.4f\n",
                                 &unix_to_np(&gmt_dt3_to_unixtime($arg)));
    exit(0);
  } elsif ($arg =~ m/^[.0-9]+$/) {
    # Any number not matching the above
    if ($arg < 217677) { # UNIX 32-bit limit, 20380118
      # Assume the given number is in newpix
      $n = &np_to_unix($arg);
      print sprintf("Newpix time $arg == UNIX %s == %s GMT\n",
                                                int($n), &gmt_date3($n, 1));
    } else {
      # Assume the given number is a UNIX time
      $d14 = &gmt_date3($arg, 1);
      print sprintf("UNIX time $arg == $d14 GMT == Newpix %.4f\n",
                                                         &unix_to_np($arg));
    }
    exit(0);
  } elsif ($arg eq 'now') {
    $t = time;
    $d14 = &gmt_date3($t, 1);
    print sprintf("It is now UNIX time $t == $d14 GMT == Newpix %.4f\n",
                                                          &unix_to_np($t));
    exit(0);
  } else {
    print STDERR "Unrecognized argument '$arg'\n";
    exit(-1);
  }
}

# If we reach here, loop and display time as a large ASCII graphic

$esc = chr(27);
while (1) {
  $t = time;
  $t = &unix_to_np($t);
  $t = sprintf("%8.3f", $t);
  $t = "   $t newpix   ";
  $t = &bantex2($t);
  $t =~ s/~/¯/g;
  print "$esc\[H";
  print (((" " x 70) . "\n") x 4);
  print "$esc\[H";
  print $t;
  sleep(1);
}


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:23 am UTC

balthasar_s wrote:
taixzo wrote:Newpixometers for Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux are still working
The "Ubuntu Linux" one is actually a python script so I tried it even without having an "Ubuntu Linux" availabe.
It looks like an "X" inside a rectangle.
I think this is not the intended appearance.


yes, it uses the Ubuntu menu bar applet system so I doubt it would work on other desktop environments. :|
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edo » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:23 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:
ZoomanSP wrote:New OtherComic.


Friendly reminder that my Newpixometers for Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux are still working, even if there are no longer newpix for them to measure.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:40 pm UTC

New othercomic which seems very related: Lots and lots of time involved, on geological timescales even, and way more waiting for it than the GLR ever demanded from those who faithfully were following the One True Comic.

Edit: New phys frame:
Image
Spoiler:
Wait for it.
So basically, the problem is that the physicists can't get the math to work the way they are used to?

Edit 2: Had neglected to ONG the spoiler too, at first. Fixed.
Last edited by svenman on Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:36 pm UTC, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:45 pm UTC

ucim wrote:A Holy Contradiction!

Here you can see why I'm submitting this here rather than to Physical Review Letters. :)

BSTA wrote:You're still too shocked to switch to panic mode now.

I'm that way, too.

Going to the nearest window to have a look at the Outside is a good idea.
Opening the nearest window would probably be a bad idea.

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svenman wrote:So basically, the problem is that the physicists can't get the math to work the way they are used to?

Short answer:
Spoiler:
Yes.
That's my impression, too.
Long answer:
Spoiler:
Wait for it.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:25 am UTC

Wait on.

Image
Spoiler:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:52 am UTC

When you say
Sustainabilizer wrote:
BSTA wrote:You're still too shocked to switch to panic mode now.

I'm that way, too.
do you mean "I also can't switch to panic mode when I'm too shocked" or "I'm as shocked as the bsta girl right now"?

Sustainabilizer wrote:Short answer:
Spoiler:
Yes.
That's my impression, too.
Long answer:
Spoiler:
Wait for it.
Spoiler:
Actually, "Wait for it." is shorter than "Yes.
That's my impression, too." :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:29 pm UTC

balthasar_s wrote:When you say
Sustainabilizer wrote:
BSTA wrote:You're still too shocked to switch to panic mode now.

I'm that way, too.
do you mean "I also can't switch to panic mode when I'm too shocked" or "I'm as shocked as the bsta girl right now"?

The first.

balthasar_s wrote:
Spoiler:
Actually, "Wait for it." is shorter than "Yes.
That's my impression, too." :)
Spoiler:
The words are.
The action of waiting for it can be arbitrarily long.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:23 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:The action of waiting for it can be arbitrarily long.
And isn't that what we all want? A long Time?

(or failing that, a long pint?)

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1190: "Time" - Time Randomly Revisited - np1378

Postby mscha » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:00 pm UTC

PREARRONGEMENT...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:00 pm UTC

Wait on.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:13 pm UTC

Hello to all! I've missed you. I've been making several trips back in Time to the Renaissance lately, which has left little Time to post. I should be more or less in the present now, though.

Hi, edo, nice to see you! I can't remember if an OTTometer was ever created. It would be interesting to compare then and now, although kind of *ndish too. :(

ucim wrote:
The new ONGs wrote:Unfortunately, both theories don't go well together.
The sea is big. It does what it wants.
When a tree is big, it knows what it's doing.
But the sea is not a tree.

So, there's something very small that is fighting the sea, and the sea doesn't like it, but maybe it doesn't know what it's doing.

Jose

:) I think this is an awesomeful (awesumful?) summary of the problem. No idea if it's RELATED at all to the question, but still awesomeful.

Speaking of things that are awesomeful, I was treated to anOTTer visit yesterday! ggh and The Little Wonder were at the airraftcastle port near me with lots of Waiting for It in front of them, so my BF and I drove to meet them and had a wowterful Time (isn't all Time wowterful?) I have some pictures to post, but I forgot to ask ggh if I could post them. Also, I'm really slow about posting pictures in general. They tend to get trapped in my MTA, never to escape.

So, is the person with eyeglasses in the Physics TAT our Sustainabilizer? If so, does that mean he traveled to the future? And if that's the case, which of the theories of physics explains that happening? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:13 pm UTC

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I thought it said the Cannot Cycle, whose phases include, "I just cannot" and "I cannot even"
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Postby lmjb1964 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:33 am UTC

Or, I want to put that in my sig. . .BUT I CANNOT!" :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:58 am UTC

No, it's the Carrot cycle, whose phrases include "What's up, doc?", and could be the next frame of the physics ONGs.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:45 pm UTC

I went to the wiki and I saw someone apparently can solve our "international ocean shipping needs" :)
How do you ship an ocean?
Also what's international? The ocean? the shippng? the needs?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sustainabilizer » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:47 pm UTC

Hi, lmjb1964!

lmjb1964 wrote:I've been making several trips back in Time to the Renaissance lately, […].

That sounds extremely molpish for me! :)

lmjb1964 wrote:So, is the person with eyeglasses in the Physics TAT our Sustainabilizer? If so, does that mean he traveled to the future? And if that's the case, which of the theories of physics explains that happening? Enquiring minds want to know.

Travelling forward in Time is straightforward. We're all doing that all the Time – with more or less the same speed, but this can be changed just by travelling fast enough. The problems start when you try to travel back in Time …


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Not really. ;)


MEANWHILE, ONG THE MOON …
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B: That confirms it.


You remember something.

So neither B nor KXA is surprised.
They appear to have experienced this before.
They know more than they admit …
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby balthasar_s » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:00 pm UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:The problems start when you try to travel back in Time …
Ask lmjb1964, she appears to have experience:
lmjb1964 wrote:I've been making several trips back in Time to the Renaissance lately, […].


Sustainabilizer wrote:So neither B nor KXA is surprised.
BSTA 231 wrote:You're still too shocked [...]
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:17 am UTC

Sustainabilizer wrote:Hi, lmjb1964!

lmjb1964 wrote:I've been making several trips back in Time to the Renaissance lately, […].

That sounds extremely molpish for me! :)

It's very molpish! It's a wonderful Time portal, because you can dash back to the Renaissance for a dip, or a wipend, and then return back to the present, where there is running water. And Time Accessors. THe Rensaissance is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

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ucim wrote:No, it's the Carrot cycle, whose phrases include "What's up, doc?",
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Ucim would be referring to this phenomenon. It's especially RELATED to the discussion at hand, since this phenomenon could also be seen on the moon and traveling through time.

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Sustainabilizer wrote:So neither B nor KXA is surprised.
BSTA 231 wrote:You're still too shocked [...]

So, they're shocked, but not surprised.
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