Refrigerator Mafia - Post Game - The Eternal Soup

[Sabrar]

Just as a reminder to all townies, we are in MYLO and really shouldn't give scum the opportunity to force a mislynch at the last minute.

[flicky1991]

Not that inheriting mafia roles is likely, but 3-3 isn't game over if I've made two of the Mafia lovers.

[Peaceful Whale]

So, wrong choice?
unvote

[flicky1991]

I'm still not 100% confident in the plan, but I can't see a good plan that doesn't start with the heury/moody lynch.

vote: heuristically_alone

[Peaceful Whale]

I want to vote for huery, but putting him at L1 is bad isn't it? Oh well, if I made a horrible mistake I blame Sabar and flicky.

Revote huery

[moody7277]

You know what, no more naive noob read. PW is scum, and I decide now.

Vote: Peaceful Whale

[Sabrar]

Not that inheriting mafia roles is likely, but 3-3 isn't game over if I've made two of the Mafia lovers.

3 Mafia can all vote No Lynch, it wins ties, there's no way for Town to make progress. 3-3 would be game over.

[Peaceful Whale]

So Bessie is fine. Right?

[Sabrar]

Why?

[Peaceful Whale]

Because now we know she's town.

[Sabrar]

So you fully believe her backup claim? Couldn't she be just lying scum?

[moody7277]

While hammering LaserGuy didn't do him any benefit town-read-wise, revoting heury after flicky voted for him just smacks of scum trying to mislynch.

[Peaceful Whale]

Well, she could be lying scum, unlikely, but she could. Purposely not do a night kill, so we all beileve her. I don't really know. How do I know you aren't scum Sabar? I don't know the truth about anyone except me. For all I know, Bessie and Sabar are the most evil scum team ever, making town think they'll win and then BAM!!! GG, Bessie and Sabar jump on the moody/huery vote, hammering them. And I'm the middle of the night, they kill flicky. Leaving PW alone and in shock as he realizes they've all been fooled.

But that's unlikely. I really hope that isn't the case. That would be evil of boomfrog, pitting the two best players against poor noobs.

But I trust Bessie, and she wouldn't lie to me right?

I still think we should kill huery, I'm sorry moody, but the needs of one our way the needs of a few.

[Sabrar]

Well, as things currently stand you can stop worrying about a {bessie, Sabrar} super-scum-team in about an hour or so when bessie comes online and doesn't hammer.

[bessie]

Unofficial votals:

heuristically_alone (3) : Sabrar, flicky1991, Peaceful Whale
Peaceful Whale (1) : moody7277

Not voting: bessie, heuristically_alone

4 votes to hammer.


heury’s willingness to be lynched make me think he is the mafia goon, not the roleblocker.

But that's unlikely. I really hope that isn't the case. That would be evil of boomfrog, pitting the two best players against poor noobs.

For most games, we can expect alignments to be assigned randomly. If the mod decides alignments, he would probably advertise the game as bastard and not newbie friendly.

Well, as things currently stand you can stop worrying about a {bessie, Sabrar} super-scum-team in about an hour or so when bessie comes online and doesn't hammer.

And what is this supposed to mean?

[Sabrar]

And what is this supposed to mean?

Well you didn't hammer. If scum-team were {bessie, Sabrar} then you would have, killing 2 townies and instantly winning the game. Therefore we can't be both scum and Peaceful Whale's worries about an unfair mod are unfounded.
Additionally you also can't be the scum-buddy of either flicky or Peaceful Whale. Nice to know.

[moody7277]

And what is this supposed to mean?

Means if you were scum and heury were town, you'd have just hammered him and it would be game over.

ninja'd by Sabrar

[flicky1991]

Not that inheriting mafia roles is likely, but 3-3 isn't game over if I've made two of the Mafia lovers.

3 Mafia can all vote No Lynch, it wins ties, there's no way for Town to make progress. 3-3 would be game over.

You're right, I worked it out wrong.

Not got time for a full read list this minute but I'm liking bessie more and Whale less than before.

[Peaceful Whale]

Reads list:
Flicky: power is too OP for scum

Sabar: I trust Bessie. (He may be godfather. Note: yogurt is spoiled milk)

Bessie: pretty likely that she's town. Not paired with Sabar flicky or whale.

Moody: more than likely town. Could be scum.

Huery:I'm pretty sure he's scum. Probably fake claiming.

Peaceful Whale: scum slips could be noob mistakes and vice versa.

Plan: lynch huery and moody tonight, Bessie is probably going to be killed, flicky "marries" Sabar and whale. Whale and Sabar die. GG, game won.

Only kinks(unlikely):
Sabar and Bessie are actually teamed as scum, and they just want to make us feel like we've won. .
Flicky is roleblocked by whoever blocked moody.
Huery and moody are actually townies.(we've lost anyway)
Scum has a one shot kill thing.
Scum has a nuke, kills all of the fridge.

Other than these small and unlikely events, we're good.

[bessie]

And what is this supposed to mean?

Well you didn't hammer. If scum-team were {bessie, Sabrar} then you would have, killing 2 townies and instantly winning the game. Therefore we can't be both scum and Peaceful Whale's worries about an unfair mod are unfounded.
Additionally you also can't be the scum-buddy of either flicky or Peaceful Whale. Nice to know.

Oh I figured you were accusing me of something and I didn't think it through.

Means if you were scum and heury were town, you'd have just hammered him and it would be game over.

Or you’re my partner I guess. Maybe that’s what Sabrar is thinking.


And, since I can’t stop thinking about the setup, because I like setup speculation, and because I think BoomFrog is too brilliant not to have balanced the game, here’s an alternate guess.

6 town
1 mafia roleblocker, starts game w/ factional kill but no one to chat with
1 mafia recruit – must target or be targeted by mafia to gain access to chat and factional kill
1 mafia backup – inherits one of the other two roles upon their death

Would this balance a 6-3 setup? And would it be too complex for a newbie-friendly game? The mafia would be a bit weaker because they wouldn't know each other on D1 and wouldn't have chat, also would explain the weaker/vanilla town roles.

15 hours to deadline.

[Sabrar]

Don't think newbie friendly game where Mafia doesn't have chat to begin with or doesn't even know who their teammates are is a good idea. I'm not sure if your speculation has any point to it or it's just active lurking at this time.

[Sabrar]

It'd be great to have someone hammer at some point, just to prevent any last-minute voting shenanigans from scum.

[Sabrar]

Although I think heury's just given up.

[Peaceful Whale]

Aw, poor huery

[moody7277]

Technically, you guys have to wait another three hours before you can start gloating.

[Peaceful Whale]

okay

[Sabrar]

I don't gloat. Openly.

[Peaceful Whale]

[BoomFrog]

Footsteps to the kitchen...

heuristically_alone (3) : Sabrar, flicky1991, Peaceful Whale
Peaceful Whale (1) : moody7277

Not voting: bessie, heuristically_alone

4 votes to hammer.

Deadline in an hour.

[Peaceful Whale]

Dun dun duh!!!!

[bessie]

Don't think newbie friendly game where Mafia doesn't have chat to begin with or doesn't even know who their teammates are is a good idea. I'm not sure if your speculation has any point to it or it's just active lurking at this time.

How is this active lurking? It’s not like I’m derailing another conversation to make that post. If there is a D4 I’ll probably be dead and I want to get all my thoughts out there. And I still think that scum not having chat would explain a lot.

Peaceful Whale, it looks like heury’s given up. He must be scum then. Do you think the game is over if he doesn’t come back and vote?

[Peaceful Whale]

I would hope so! If he and moody are scum!!!
I think moody *may* be a townie. I'm pretty sure we'll win this. Tomorrow there'll only be one scum, and two townies. You've seen our plans, I think you know how it's going to work.

[bessie]

If moody is town, who do you think is the other scum?

[Sabrar]

How is this active lurking? It’s not like I’m derailing another conversation to make that post.

I don't think that's a requirement. I'll happily discuss definitions after the game.

[Peaceful Whale]

I would guess either Bessie or Sabar... I think flicky is town. Pretty sure about that. More than likely Bessie's dieing tonight, that's why she's at the button of my scum list, becuase if she isn't...
Town
PW
Bessie - if she is killed tonight.
Flicky
Sabar
Bessie -if she isn't killed tonight.
Scum

[bessie]

How is this active lurking? It’s not like I’m derailing another conversation to make that post.

I don't think that's a requirement. I'll happily discuss definitions after the game.

Why are you so against me posting my thoughts? I'm probably dead tonight, don't you want to know what I'm thinking?

It'd be great to have someone hammer at some point, just to prevent any last-minute voting shenanigans from scum.

Why the hurry?

[Sabrar]

- I am not against you posting your thoughts, I just think that speculating on scum's weakness is not something which pushes discussion forward or would produce results.
- No hurry, 'at some point' can be 2 minutes before deadline for all I care, as long as people are actually around (unlike me).

[BoomFrog]

The food moved Heuristically_alone to the door shelf and loosened the hooks holding it on. Resigned to his fate, Heuy barely protested. But just before the door opened, moody leapt to the shelf and clung to Heuy. "I won't let you go alone" he said. The door opened and the shelf collapsed, scattering them to the floor. Mother looked and wrinkled her nose in disgust. "These grapes are all sour." She picked them up by the plastic cling wrap and tossed them both in the garbage.

Heuristically Alone has been lynched. He was Sour Grapes - Mafia RoleCop

Spoiler:

Grapes - Mafia RoleCop

You are a bunch of grapes. Sour grapes. You are also part of the spoiled mafia. Each day you can choose a player by sending me a PM, that night you will learn their powers if any.

Also, you are mafia mates with [Redacted]. You have night chat and a group nightkill power. I will send a separate PM detailing your group powers. You win when town is eliminated or that outcome in inevitable.

moody7277 has been eliminated. He was Saran Wrap - town 1-shot grand protector

Spoiler:

You are a sheet of Saran Wrap. Once per game you can choose to divide the fridge and protect any number of players for that night. PM me a list of players you will protect for the upcoming night. Protected players cannot be night killed. However! If any player you protect is scum then your power does nothing. You will not be told if your power failed.

Your alignment is Town. You win when all threats to town have been eliminated or that outcome in inevitable.

Night action results are being sent now.

[BoomFrog]

Mother washes her hands and returns to the fridge. Normally the food would all be eager to be picked next, but the good food knew they must preserve themselves to finish the purge. They hid in the corners and under the drawers, but flicky was stuck. He couldn't move, and he was directly in Mother's gaze when the door opened. "Well this rice will have to do." She gave it a sniff. "At least this is still good."

Flicky was good. We knew it. Everything was better with rice.

Flicky has been eliminated. He was Rice - Town Temporary-matchmaker

Spoiler:

You are white rice. Many would think you are quite boring but they forget that rice has the power to make two people married! Although without a full wedding the effect is only temporary. Each day you can choose two players by sending me a PM. The next day period those two people will be "lovers" for that day only. If one is lynched they both die. They will both be told of this effect. This does not affect deaths during the night.

Your alignments is Town. You win when all threats to town have been eliminated or that outcome in inevitable.

D4 begins now. Deadline is Saturday 11am PDT

3 alive 2 to lynch.

[Peaceful Whale]

Ummm...
well I did my part, so did flicky. Sabar, can you confirm that you are lovers with me?