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by **Samik** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:58 am UTC

There is not a single part of that post (aside from the two quoted bits, and even those seem non-sequiturial) that I am able to parse. And I'm usually pretty solid at interpreting wild-netizenese.

Little help, anyone?

by **Steax** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:02 am UTC

Mood at 10 PM: This looks like a great design, I should use it! ... But it's getting late. I'll bookmark it and do it tomorrow morning.

Mood at 8 AM: ... Why did I like this again?

Back to step 1

I'm not sure if the design wasn't actually good, or my morning mood was terrible.

by **Fuck Unicode** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:33 am UTC

I'm a sock puppet intended for FaiD, so here's my 1 post so that mods don't have to approve everything.

by **Deva** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:42 am UTC

Samik wrote:There is not a single part of that post (aside from the two quoted bits, and even those seem non-sequiturial) that I am able to parse. And I'm usually pretty solid at interpreting wild-netizenese.

Little help, anyone?

Stashed Chuy Bravo near Baja for a science experiment. May be related to allergies. (Uncertain.)

Uses an avatar of a robotic insect. Wants robotic insect honey for allergies. Add nutmeg for a more palatable product.

Connects the baby primate's expression with the link. Depicts a singing hamburger. Wonders what additives besides pink slime exist. Possibly relates back to a potential Chuy Bravo comedy segment/joke.

by **torontoraptor** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:34 am UTC

Deva wrote:
Samik wrote:There is not a single part of that post (aside from the two quoted bits, and even those seem non-sequiturial) that I am able to parse. And I'm usually pretty solid at interpreting wild-netizenese.

Little help, anyone?

Stashed Chuy Bravo near Baja for a science experiment. May be related to allergies. (Uncertain.)

Uses an avatar of a robotic insect. Wants robotic insect honey for allergies. Add nutmeg for a more palatable product.

Connects the baby primate's expression with the link. Depicts a singing hamburger. Wonders what additives besides pink slime exist. Possibly relates back to a potential Chuy Bravo comedy segment/joke.

Finds humour in Deva responding to post about incomprehensibility. Reminded of scene from Hot Fuzz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NuPI7pK2s

by **The Cat** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:48 am UTC

Hey Samik,

I have absolutely no idea. To go from as heavily afflicted as I was, to being completely free and clear (for a good 5 years now)... I wouldn't count on such a thing happening to you, but, someway, somehow, it is possible.

Probably not dude, I got my Chuy save off the coast of Baja back in 2006. Arms stretched out and all! It's Science!

There is not a single part of that post (aside from the two quoted bits, and even those seem non-sequiturial) that I am able to parse. And I'm usually pretty solid at interpreting wild-netizenese.

That's the problem. We're speaking different languages! It's ridiculous how many problems are caused by a break down in communication. First, I'm speaking wild-netizenish. So, reading from left to right, Chuy is an endearing name for Jesus in Mexico. In 2006, I got caught in a storm outside of Bahi de tortuga. Had to duck in at the Island just North. Fuel filters clogged due pitch, roll, and bio sediment. 60ft. deep made anchoring difficult even with considerable scope. Listened to the seals bark of the stern all night. In the morning light, a giant statue of Chuy was staring at me with arms outstretched from the cliff overhead (Sci built statue)....I normally save that story for when I'm at a camp fire surrounded by Christians, It's a real crowd pleaser...Of course, I go into greater detail and finish with "I'm a fan of Chuy". They say "We almost got ya!"..laughter ensues.

Spoiler:

by **felltir** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:48 pm UTC

Deva, Cat, I love you both so much right now.

by **Dthen** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:47 pm UTC

Cat, your name is about cats. I like cats. Cats are the bestest things ever. I really like cats quite a lot, because they're lovely.

by **Steax** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:53 pm UTC

What would one call the logical fallacy where a person compares 2 objects, and concludes that since one is bad, the other one must be good? I.e. "those people are allowed to riot because the government is corrupt and won't listen anyway"?

Alternatively, "well, if the government hadn't done X, none of this would've happened, so rioting is okay."

by **Hyphe** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:14 pm UTC

Please don't conflate protesting with rioting. Protesters protest; rioters riot. If something was a protest, and became a riot, the protesters are no longer protesters and have instead become (or been replaced by) rioters.

Sorry to nitpick, but it's a sore spot. My country is speeding hell-for-leather towards outlawing protest, in part by a media that paints 'protesters' as violent, aggressive thugs who set things on fire.

by **Samik** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:26 pm UTC

Haha, oh man this gave me a good laugh this morning. Thanks.

It amazes me how a string of letters can waffle back and forth being absolutely incoherent to densely meaningful just by adding/subtracting a little bit of context.

And I don't know what my mind was busy doing otherwise (probably nothing) that I managed to miss the reference to my very own avatar. (Here I am thinking: "Why am I being called a robot bee??" I guess that means I've had this one for too long. Time to make a change.)

torontoraptor wrote:Finds humour in Deva responding to post about incomprehensibility. Reminded of scene from Hot Fuzz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NuPI7pK2s

See, I have no trouble whatsoever understanding Deva. In some ways, his/her speech is almost easier to get through. Simplified. Direct.

Also, that link was dead. I assume this is the same general idea?

by **Steax** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:29 pm UTC

Hyphe wrote:Please don't conflate protesting with rioting. Protesters protest; rioters riot. If something was a protest, and became a riot, the protesters are no longer protesters and have instead become (or been replaced by) rioters.

Sorry to nitpick, but it's a sore spot. My country is speeding hell-for-leather towards outlawing protest, in part by a media that paints 'protesters' as violent, aggressive thugs who set things on fire.

Alright, I replaced the words in use. I hope that works better for you.

by **Dark567** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:32 pm UTC

Plasma Man wrote:I did try to watch the last Superbowl as the BBC decided to show it, but the repeated interruptions in play got boring very quickly. I gave up after the first quarter. On the bright side, I do now feel fully justified in mocking American football as a wimpy version of rugby, having watched them both.

I assure you, having played both, that isn't the case. American football will make you feel a lot sorer in the morning then Rugby will. It has something to do with the angles and speed your hit at and the pads.

by **eSOANEM** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:41 pm UTC

Steax wrote:What would one call the logical fallacy where a person compares 2 objects, and concludes that since one is bad, the other one must be good? I.e. "those people are allowed to riot because the government is corrupt and won't listen anyway"?

Alternatively, "well, if the government hadn't done X, none of this would've happened, so rioting is okay."

It's a false dichotomy.

Samik wrote:
torontoraptor wrote:Finds humour in Deva responding to post about incomprehensibility. Reminded of scene from Hot Fuzz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NuPI7pK2s

Has no trouble whatsoever understanding Deva. In some ways, his/her speech is easier to get through. Simplified. Direct.

ftfy

by **Samik** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:05 pm UTC

eSOANEM wrote:
Samik wrote:
torontoraptor wrote:Finds humour in Deva responding to post about incomprehensibility. Reminded of scene from Hot Fuzz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NuPI7pK2s

Has no trouble whatsoever understanding Deva. In some ways, his/her speech is easier to get through. Simplified. Direct.

ftfy

Ah, ty.

Wonders if it would be possible to put a filter on the forum that translated everyone's posts into Devish.

by **DaBigCheez** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:43 pm UTC

Samik wrote:
eSOANEM wrote:
Samik wrote:
torontoraptor wrote:Finds humour in Deva responding to post about incomprehensibility. Reminded of scene from Hot Fuzz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NuPI7pK2s

Has no trouble whatsoever understanding Deva. In some ways, his/her speech is easier to get through. Simplified. Direct.

ftfy

Ah, ty.

Wonders if it would be possible to put a filter on the forum that translated everyone's posts into Devish.

Wordfilter plusgood bellyfeel.

by **The Cat** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:41 pm UTC

Deva, Cat, I love you both so much right now.

Thanks Felltir, I hope you're doing well. Deva talks cat, Deva talks cat real well.

Cat, your name is about cats. I like cats. Cats are the bestest things ever. I really like cats quite a lot, because they're lovely.

Thank you. I'm happy to entertain.

What would one call the logical fallacy where a person compares 2 objects, and concludes that since one is bad, the other one must be good? I.e. "those people are allowed to riot because the government is corrupt and won't listen anyway"?

Slippery Slope fallacy?

Haha, oh man this gave me a good laugh this morning. Thanks.

You're welcome. I was laughing while writing. Wild-netizenese was funny and inspirational.

by **eSOANEM** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:12 pm UTC

Samik wrote:
eSOANEM wrote:
Samik wrote:
torontoraptor wrote:Finds humour in Deva responding to post about incomprehensibility. Reminded of scene from Hot Fuzz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NuPI7pK2s

Has no trouble whatsoever understanding Deva. In some ways, his/her speech is easier to get through. Simplified. Direct.

ftfy

Ah, ty.

Wonders if it would be possible to put a filter on the forum that translated everyone's posts into Devish.

Agrees. Would suggest it for mod madness if doing so didn't mean it wouldn't get used.

by **torontoraptor** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:24 pm UTC

Samik wrote:Also, that link was dead. I assume this is the same general idea?

Yep. Link not dead for me. <--Hard to devafy that.

by **Mostlynormal** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:35 am UTC

DaBigCheez wrote:Wordfilter plusgood bellyfeel.

You duckspeak doubleplusgoodwise, comrade.

Samik wrote:Wonders if it would be possible to put a filter on the forum that translated everyone's posts into Devish.

Would enjoy such a filter. Finds it fun to talk like this. Makes communication interesting.

by **Deva** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:36 am UTC

torontoraptor wrote:
Samik wrote:Also, that link was dead. I assume this is the same general idea?

Yep. Link not dead for me. <--Hard to devafy that.

"Correct." Assumed the second sentence. Add "Worked for me", "Worked recently", or "Worked on this computer", if desired.

by **darknut** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:56 am UTC

Mostlynormal wrote:
Samik wrote:Wonders if it would be possible to put a filter on the forum that translated everyone's posts into Devish.

Would enjoy such a filter. Finds it fun to talk like this. Makes communication interesting.

disagrees, greater fun try to self do instead of machine forced

fist attempt devanese. is good?

by **Kithplana** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:32 am UTC

I'm kind of proud of myself. More so about what I can do without thinking too hard about it rather than what I can do when I think very hard about it.

I'm working on setting up a migration from server A to server Z. Server A needs to talk LDAP to server Z in order for this to go smoothly with a minimum of downtime. Server A is closed-source poorly documented software and server Z is open source and rather more well documented. Server A throws a vague error message trying to talk to server Z.

Wireshark time! (I forget how easy tcpdump is.) Turns out that server A does not speak server Z's custom schema. Server Z's custom schema cannot be modified easily.

But wait! Server A supports custom schemas. But wait! The only documentation available, period, is one post by server A support on server A's shell of a community forum that addresses changing the attribute that is working.

There must be more than that. Nobody puts a single configuration option in its own file surrounded by curly brackets. Only... there's no documentation. No source for me to grep through. Googling the option produces 43 results of nothing useful. No hints. Do they borrow nothing? Do they use no existing libraries known to man?

I could contact server A support and wait for them to get back to me whenever they feel like it -- although considering that they have been ignoring our requests to give them money for moar licensing plz I could be waiting a long time.

No docs, no source, but I have a binary... and, sure enough, running 'strings' on the binary turns up the option given in the forum post and several other adjacent lines that closely resemble (and turn out to be) relevant options.

I shouldn't have to do things like that to figure out how to work the software... but it's pretty satisfying to pull it off.

by **Deva** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:04 am UTC

darknut wrote:disagrees, greater fun try to self do instead of machine forced

fist attempt devanese. is good?

Understood it. Altered the sentence structure too much.

Start with a standard English sentence.
1. Split up compound sentences, if able.
2. Remove everything (except adverbs) before the initial verb.
3. Leave questions and imperatives alone.

Covers most cases. Comes down to phrasing after that.

by **The Cat** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:09 am UTC

Oh, the primate is a reeses (spelled differently) monkey. The facial expression ties to something unrelated. Lil monkey is saying Oh, that's interesting.

by **UniqueScreenname** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:09 pm UTC

Rhesus.

Will start a thread in Language/Linguistics for Devanese if thought to be supported.

by **Dthen** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:19 pm UTC

Deva wrote:
darknut wrote:disagrees, greater fun try to self do instead of machine forced

fist attempt devanese. is good?

Understood it. Altered the sentence structure too much.

Start with a standard English sentence.
1. Split up compound sentences, if able.
2. Remove everything (except adverbs) before the initial verb.
3. Leave questions and imperatives alone.

Covers most cases. Comes down to phrasing after that.

I was just about to PM you to ask you what your standard procedure for posting was. Thanks.

by **Mostlynormal** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:09 pm UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:Will start a thread in Language/Linguistics for Devanese if thought to be supported.

Should translate some Shakespeare into Devanese. Will help those poor native Devanese speakers who can't read Shakespeare

Prologue of Romeo and Juliet:

Lay our scene in Verona, two houses.
Flares up again. Bloodies civil hands.
Give birth to lovers. Take their life. Stop fighting.
Continued raging. Couldn't stop without children's death.
Listen to our story.
Will try to fill in gaps.

Is just a first stab. What do you think?

by **UniqueScreenname** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:52 pm UTC

http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=82423

by **Deva** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:12 pm UTC

Mostlynormal wrote:Should translate some Shakespeare into Devanese. Will help those poor native Devanese speakers who can't read Shakespeare

Prologue of Romeo and Juliet:

Lay our scene in Verona, two houses.
Flares up again. Bloodies civil hands.
Give birth to lovers. Take their life. Stop fighting.
Continued raging. Couldn't stop without children's death.
Listen to our story.
Will try to fill in gaps.

Is just a first stab. What do you think?

Forgot the "Reconjugate the verb to third person singular" step. Only affected some verbs, though. Helps to differentiate imperatives from statements. Preserve the tense, of course.

No large issues besides that. Prefers your version over the original. Maintained good sentence diversity. Recommends replacing the first sentence’s comma with "with" and adding "their" before "children’s death". Avoids contractions, personally. Does not mind that, however.

by **torontoraptor** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:52 pm UTC

Proper Toga wearing always both comfort and Roman likeness. Fear not well suited to cool temperatures. Will find out soon.

by **bigglesworth** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:53 pm UTC

Proper toga wearing is ideally suited for cooler climes - there's just as much cloth covering you as when you're wearing trousers. If you're cold, wear a cloak.

by **The Cat** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:22 pm UTC

My name is Detective Mark Stroble. I'm investigating a homicide case. If anyone on this forum knows anything about the deceased, please contact me as soon as possible. His name is John Tillerman and his Avatar is "The Cat".

Detective
Mark Stroble
(910) 603-4993

by **Angua** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:23 pm UTC

Spoiler:

by **The Cat** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:27 pm UTC

I was just about to ask about felltir! Darn lil island hopper...I hope a giant mosquito stings you right on the bum! voodoo to you young lady!

by **Angua** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:31 pm UTC

muahahahhahahaha

by **The Cat** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:51 pm UTC

Oh, so I was talking with the owner of my local grocer this morning. I mentioned the pink slime issue...He said back in 1976, when he first moved to this country, the first job he had was working at a grocery store. When they had bad poultry, they would dip it in bleach and add salt! FN hell! I bought a grass fed chicken breast yesterday. It was the most delicious chickity Chinese the Chinese chicken I've ever had. The two breast cost $14. The irony is, the people who can afford $14 breasts, probably don't need health care insurance. FU.gov , I'm happy to pay an affordable amount for health care insurance.....There is no way that poisoning and healing can't be associated with our right to life. The proof is in the 37th ranking by the world health organization....I'm sorry, we live in an environment where we are subjected to the air and water of our industry. With so many anthropological studies, WE DO BETTER without the additives...So, to me, it sounds like money has the right to poison, but not heal. I ask you brother, are we in this together? I'm ready to fight.

______________

Oh lass, the four leaf clover is so rare, you must understand, those three leaves are so filled with love, the fourth is most certainly unnecessary. Life is a test of enduring love.

I should know, I'm a nerdy scientist. A study in grace (bow). wow wow yippia O yippa A.

by **felltir** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:01 pm UTC

I am so happy

by **I Am Raven** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:43 pm UTC

felltir wrote:I am so happy :D

:)

Why?

by **felltir** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:50 pm UTC

I Am Raven wrote:
felltir wrote:I am so happy

Why?

The Cat did what I asked him to, and also I had the best night last night.

How are you, Raven?

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