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aro3n wrote:Hi,
For school I am taking a course that stresses alternatives to the traditional "classics" of english literature. I have to find foreign books (in english or translated to english) that could add to the curricula of the school; for this quarter, specifically, I must find a foreign book that challenges the American taboo about sex. Simply put, I need to find a sexy foreign book.
Any suggestions?
(Foreign, according to this class, is defined as not an American or a male Canadian author)
Zohar wrote:You could try some of Greg Egan's stuff - Permutation City, Diaspora... Heavy sci-fi with some interesting philosophical implications.
PAstrychef wrote:So what adult books have you tried and why have they failed you? You want a book that talks about big ideas, that's easy to get into-try Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenanceby Pirsig. A great introduction to philosophy and a nice travel story too.
Zohar wrote:You could try Greg Egan's stuff. Diaspora is pretty cool, as is Permutation City (both of which are sort of computer science fiction).
harpyblues wrote:Looking for a book rec. I'm 16, female (if that has any influence on this at all). I'm looking at trying to get more into sci fi and fantasy (steampunk?), but not sure where to branch out to next. I haven't read the WoT series, because it's a bit intimidating, especially with the author existance failure bit. What do you guys think of that?
To get a better idea, I've liked:
Pratchett, Gaiman, Pullman, Lovecraft, Naomi Novik, Mckinley, Michael Swanwick, early Anne Mccaffrey, and Ekaterina Sedia
I'm on the fence with (through lack of reading/hearsay):
Neal Stephenson, China Mieville (didn't like his protag or ending for Perdido Street Station, but liked his world building even if he was bs-ing on some stuff a bit), and Orson Scott Card (haven't read his early books, which everyone says are good, tried reading his later ones and hated them because he got onto a pedestal about religion), Jasper Fforde, and House of Leaves (which everyone seems to be on about)
I didn't like (because of author theme/outright hating series):
Ringo (because he's kind of a sexist asshole), Paolini, Meyer, Mercedes Lackey (depending on series), Maria v Snyder, any horrifically wishy washy romantic fantasy series, especially ones with vampires (though there are exceptions because the writing is good- like Sunshine by Mckinley)
I like sympathetic villains/villain perspective without the whole 'oooh, you should consider him uber evil' part, and I want to try steampunk more. What's a good argument for me to try up Orson Scott Card again, because I need some kind of reassurance that I'm not crazy about hating his later books? Ditto goes for most high fantasy, like Goodkind and Salvatore. I'm not really gone on black-white morality stuff that the genre goes into.
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Aldarion wrote:After watching Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes, I'm desperate for a book with a similar plot style.
It definitely doesn't have to be about coma, hallucinations or going back in time; what I'm looking for is the general spirit: a big mystery, many levels of meaning, lots of little details coming together, subtle clues that later turn out to be important, some things like the weird flashbacks in LoM and AtA, or the arc-themes (Test Card Girl, The Clown, Bowie music).
The most important thing, really, is lots of very strange and unexplained stuff happening, and then an explanation that would make it all clear in a flash of Fridge Brilliance, and without being a blatant cheat like "It's all hallucination anyway, so the details don't matter much".
PAstrychef wrote:You would probably enjoy Nick Harkaway's The Gone-Away World very much. It has a bright pink and green cover, so it's easy to spot.
The opening section of the novel describes what you think is a crash. Thereafter, we are fascinated and confused with several different sections. One details the life of John Orr, a man washed up at the foot of the majestic Bridge. Orr is suffering from amnesia, and can't quite grasp the fact that he has woken up in a place that seems to be a never-ending bridge. Amongst this we are introduced to a set of Orr's dreams, some his own fabrication, some real. Then there is the life story of an unknown man peppered throughout the novel. It is indeed complex, but incredibly compelling and very unusual.
Aldarion wrote:After watching Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes, I'm desperate for a book with a similar plot style.
It definitely doesn't have to be about coma, hallucinations or going back in time; what I'm looking for is the general spirit: a big mystery, many levels of meaning, lots of little details coming together, subtle clues that later turn out to be important, some things like the weird flashbacks in LoM and AtA, or the arc-themes (Test Card Girl, The Clown, Bowie music).
The most important thing, really, is lots of very strange and unexplained stuff happening, and then an explanation that would make it all clear in a flash of Fridge Brilliance, and without being a blatant cheat like "It's all hallucination anyway, so the details don't matter much".
Also, while I'm at it, there's another book I'd like to read (if it exists). There's the common plot about a modern-day loser who dreams of Olden Times, when there were Knights and Swords and Adventure and Beautiful Princesses and Bravery and Many Other capital-Letter Words. In the course of the book (or film) the loser somehow winds up in those Olden Times, where he really stops being a loser, learns to use a Sword, meets up with some Knights, has some Adventures, displays Bravery, wins himself a Beautiful Princess and so on, and then returns to the present filled with confidence and starts a new life. I'm sure you've read a book or two with such a plot, and definitely seen a couple of movies. But I'd like to see a variation on this plot: the loser winds up in the Olden times, but quickly finds out that Swords are heavy, Knights are more drunk and sweaty that daring and shiny, Adventure equals "something that can get you killed easily" rather than "an exciting way to alleviate boredom", and that being in the Olden Times really doesn't make it any easier to display Bravery. Also, he finds out that Princesses, believe it or not, aren't easily available, and that - oh, the horror! - most of them dare not to be Beautiful. The book doesn't have a happy end at all. The emphasis is really on this — it's not that he realizes that his dream world is not as perfect as he thought and then manages to get over it, but exactly the opposite — he doesn't get over it and has all his [day]dreams shattered.
Did someone write such a book? Thanks in advance.
Gordon R. Dickson's Dragon Knight series included some of those elements--although I don't think the main character was a loser-who-dreams-about-how-awesome-fantasy-is, particularly. I think the main character was more sensible than that, and actually he had no real wish to journey into a fantasy world, but was drawn in unwillingly, although I don't quite remember.Aldarion wrote:But I'd like to see a variation on this plot: the loser winds up in the Olden times, but quickly finds out that Swords are heavy, Knights are more drunk and sweaty that daring and shiny, Adventure equals "something that can get you killed easily" rather than "an exciting way to alleviate boredom", and that being in the Olden Times really doesn't make it any easier to display Bravery. Also, he finds out that Princesses, believe it or not, aren't easily available, and that - oh, the horror! - most of them dare not to be Beautiful. The book doesn't have a happy end at all. The emphasis is really on this — it's not that he realizes that his dream world is not as perfect as he thought and then manages to get over it, but exactly the opposite — he doesn't get over it and has all his [day]dreams shattered.
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Aldarion wrote:After watching Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes, I'm desperate for a book with a similar plot style.
It definitely doesn't have to be about coma, hallucinations or going back in time; what I'm looking for is the general spirit: a big mystery, many levels of meaning, lots of little details coming together, subtle clues that later turn out to be important, some things like the weird flashbacks in LoM and AtA, or the arc-themes (Test Card Girl, The Clown, Bowie music).
The most important thing, really, is lots of very strange and unexplained stuff happening, and then an explanation that would make it all clear in a flash of Fridge Brilliance, and without being a blatant cheat like "It's all hallucination anyway, so the details don't matter much".
Also, while I'm at it, there's another book I'd like to read (if it exists). There's the common plot about a modern-day loser who dreams of Olden Times, when there were Knights and Swords and Adventure and Beautiful Princesses and Bravery and Many Other capital-Letter Words. In the course of the book (or film) the loser somehow winds up in those Olden Times, where he really stops being a loser, learns to use a Sword, meets up with some Knights, has some Adventures, displays Bravery, wins himself a Beautiful Princess and so on, and then returns to the present filled with confidence and starts a new life. I'm sure you've read a book or two with such a plot, and definitely seen a couple of movies. But I'd like to see a variation on this plot: the loser winds up in the Olden times, but quickly finds out that Swords are heavy, Knights are more drunk and sweaty that daring and shiny, Adventure equals "something that can get you killed easily" rather than "an exciting way to alleviate boredom", and that being in the Olden Times really doesn't make it any easier to display Bravery. Also, he finds out that Princesses, believe it or not, aren't easily available, and that - oh, the horror! - most of them dare not to be Beautiful. The book doesn't have a happy end at all. The emphasis is really on this — it's not that he realizes that his dream world is not as perfect as he thought and then manages to get over it, but exactly the opposite — he doesn't get over it and has all his [day]dreams shattered.
Did someone write such a book? Thanks in advance.
smokestack wrote:I'm 18, I need some good escapist sci-fi/fantasy recommendations. I loved Enders Game and Speaker (not crazy about the rest of the series though) the first Dune book (thought the others got silly), the Game of Thrones series, His Dark Materials, Snowcrash, etc. I used to read a bunch of fantasy and sci fi when I was younger and then fell off it, now I want to get back into again and can't find anything that doesn't have laughable dialogue or a convoluted plot.
smokestack wrote:I'm 18, I need some good escapist sci-fi/fantasy recommendations. I loved Enders Game and Speaker (not crazy about the rest of the series though) the first Dune book (thought the others got silly), the Game of Thrones series, His Dark Materials, Snowcrash, etc. I used to read a bunch of fantasy and sci fi when I was younger and then fell off it, now I want to get back into again and can't find anything that doesn't have laughable dialogue or a convoluted plot.
smokestack wrote:I'm 18, I need some good escapist sci-fi/fantasy recommendations. I loved Enders Game and Speaker (not crazy about the rest of the series though) the first Dune book (thought the others got silly), the Game of Thrones series, His Dark Materials, Snowcrash, etc. I used to read a bunch of fantasy and sci fi when I was younger and then fell off it, now I want to get back into again and can't find anything that doesn't have laughable dialogue or a convoluted plot.
For Humanity, the War is over...
We all remember Resurrection Day. Even now, three centuries later, we cannot forget that awakening: our bewilderment, our terror and our joy. Each of us had experienced death, imagining ourselves bound for oblivion, Heaven or Nirvana, according to taste. Instead, we found, each member of the many human species -- from tool-wielding australopithecines to posthuman philosopher-gods -- had been harvested, gathered here by the Founders’ unfathomable technologies.
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We may be certain, therefore, that these rumours of a murder (the brutal stabbing of a City Councillor, no less!) are nothing more than lurid fabrications. The supposition that the murder weapon is missing, or that it could have been -- as hysterical conjecture has claimed -- a “potent weapon,” capable of injuring a Citizen within the haven of the City, is equally absurd. The idea that a guerrilla war has already begun in one of our less harmonious enclaves need not be dignified with refutation.
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I think the latter group is awesome.
Liked Ender's Game and Hitchhiker, likes Dean Koontz, couldn't get in to the Hobbit, eh?delfts wrote:Hey. I'm turning 15 soon and I'm trying to indulge myself in the world of reading. I would like some good recommendations.
I'm into sci-fi, fantasy, and mysteries/thrillers. I've finished the Ender's Game series, the Hitchhiker's series, and I just picked up my first Dean Koontz book (I'm really enjoying it so far). I would like to read some more non-fiction books as well. I thought The Hobbit was alright - I enjoyed it at first but after a while it started to get a bit boring. I read Foundation, but I thought that it wasn't written very well and a lot of it went over my head. Any ideas?
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