TheGrammarBolshevik wrote:Which is, again, to ignore the fact that few Christians regard their faith as limited to the teachings of Jesus.
Wait, is this really, statistically true? 'Cause it is not at all the zeitgeist of the Christianity I was raised with (southern Baptist and the like). I went to churches, and a Christian school, and the message I always heard about religion was that it was, in fact, based on the teachings of Jesus. There was respect for the Old Testament, but it was all kind of New-Covenant-Theology
-- all the
archaic stuff was null and void. Nominally, theoretically, it was all supposed to be straight from Jesus. Sure, you'd take the good stuff from the other books, because Jesus accepted them as an authority, but Jesus' words took higher authority. Sola scriptura, saved-by-grace-- to be sure, in practice
? Totally cultural/social/whatever the preacher says is the interpretation. Without the faintest shadow of a doubt. But few of them would've realized or admitted that. What they would have told
you was that they believed in the teachings of Jesus, and all the quirks of their denomination were actually the correct interpretations of the teachings of Jesus, and their leaders were appointed by the authority of Jesus. I think that if I asked (though I have no intentions of making the experiment, I'm a semi-secret atheist and I am not opening that can of worms), anyone I knew would have told
you that their faith was indeed
"limited to the teachings of Jesus", even if, observationally
, that was obviously not the case. So that statement seems entirely backward to me.
I mean, I know damn well Southern Baptists aren't the whole of Protestantism, much less Christianity, but I really
thought that was an evangelical mindset that was a lot more widespread than everyone's implying. I'm the last person to deny that they were damn weird, but-- is it really that rare a belief? I'd like to know just how freaky the church I was raised in was.
...Also, I've got to admit, PM's comments did strike me as disturbingly... Steroid-esque. "Disagree with the mainstream? Go get your sect a commune and STFU!" What, no evangelizing to the evangelists?...
(though i've no doubt it wasn't meant that way)