gmalivuk wrote:I know that many Iranians regard the cleric who recently blamed an earthquake on immodestly dressed women as the same level of quack that most intelligent Americans regard the likes of Pat Robertson. And speaking of Iran (I know you were talking about Saudi Arabia but I assume you'd have made similar claims about Iran, right?) when people there did try to stand up in protest of what was happening in their government, they were brutally put down. I'm not sure how much you want moderates to do when that's the kind of response they can expect from those in power over them.
Yes Iran is an interesting case. Their government and real leaders have some extremist positions. Basically its the old guard. Then you have a very small middle aged population due to the Iraq Iran war, in which they were butchered. (The Iranian tactics were effective, but bloody).
Then you have a HUGE young population that is very moderate, if not outright liberal.
I was hopeful for the protests they had, but I think they basically have to wait for the old guard to die off, before we see a real transformation in that nation.
In the mean time, the Iranian religious police are on duty, oppressing in an extremist way.
Although they seem to be highly ineffective or don't enforce the rules as much.
I think America has totally taken the wrong "axis of evil" approach with Iran, and should have been showering them with praise and allyship (made up that word I think) in an effort to speed up the conversion and moderation.