SCOTUS Biased Against Basic Mathematical Arguments

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Re: SCOTUS Biased Against Basic Mathematical Arguments

Postby Zamfir » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:06 am UTC

@sardia, It seems a matter of degree. Some amount of selfish political calculation is accepted even by the opposing judges, just not every amount. The question under debate is not whether the state government was acting in its partisan interest when it made the map, but where it becomes 'too much'. And more relevant, if the courts can decide what's too much, or they should leave it to congress.

Look at these quotes below, from anti-gerrymandering opinions in the previous case. It's 'sometimes it does not', 'is sufficiently demonstrable', or 'sole motivator'. They are looking at degrees.

They are all accepting that partisan considerations are allowed in the process, but they are (in different ways) trying to pin down when it becomes too much in a way that a court can rule on,by tieing it to equal protection.
The use of purely political considerations in drawing district boundaries is not a “necessary evil” that, for lack of judicially manageable standards, the Constitution inevitably must tolerate. Rather, pure politics often helps to secure constitutionally important democratic objectives. But sometimes it does not. [...]

However equal districts may be in population as a formal matter, the consequence of a vote cast can be minimized or maximized, Karcher v. Daggett, 462 U. S. 725, 734, n. 6 (1983), and if unfairness is sufficiently demonstrable, the guarantee of equal protection condemns it as a denial of substantial equality.

In my view, when partisanship is the legislature’s sole motivation—when any pretense of neutrality is forsaken unabashedly and all traditional districting criteria are subverted for partisan advantage—the governing body cannot be said to have acted impartially.

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Re: SCOTUS Biased Against Basic Mathematical Arguments

Postby Ginger » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:52 am UTC

If your entire defense in the supreme courts boils down to a lot of, "scientific words and maths phrase," then that is NOT a defense in court. At best it's like using statistics to BOLSTER NOT PROVE your arguments in courts: Using maths as a tool to highlight your concerns and not making it at the front of your defense. The Supreme Court of the US is in NO WAY biased against mathematical arguments. Maths is just too complicated for laypeople to get. And that is a failing of maths and sciences NOT the SCOTUS.
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