The Great Hippo wrote:I can certainly see how Trump provides a response to increasingly out-of-touch politicians -- and a political system that alienates the very people it claims to empower. I also can sympathize with Republican voters who feel a sense of disillusionment with their party; I think there's plenty of that on both sides of the political spectrum.mcd001 wrote:So, permit me to explain: As a long-time republican voter, I became more and more disillusioned by the republican politicians that I voted for, based on what they said they would do while campaigning versus what they actually did once elected. Government spending continued to escalate despite decades of republican campaign promises to rein it in, and it didn't seem to matter which party controlled the White House or Congress (it'll be my kids left holding the bag). Same with illegal immigration; it continued unchecked by either party with middle and lower-class Americans getting the bill, while politicians (of both parties) and their donors reaped the benefits. Not to mention the abuses of legal immigration laws such as H1B visas. I believe that voter unhappiness with our lax enforcement of immigration laws is the single biggest reason that Trump was elected. When Trump said he would put America first, that phrase resonated with voters who were comparing Trump to mainstream politicians that put the wishes of their supporters and donors ahead of the voter. That phrase resonated with voters who were tired of being told that floods of immigrants and refugees coming into their communities were good for them, when the evidence of their eyes told them the exact opposite.
I find it strange to think of Trump's support as a direct result of the illegal immigration crisis, though -- largely because it scarcely seems like a crisis at all. Illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit violent crimes (or even be incarcerated, for that matter). You could argue that illegal immigrants create an undue burden on our economic system (through entitlement programs, so on), but only if you ignore the fact that a significant majority of them actually work 'legally' -- and therefore pay taxes, funding those very same programs (and contributing to our economic health). Meanwhile, out of the six states with the highest number of illegal immigrants, only two of those states went to Trump -- Texas and Florida. New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and California (which has the highest illegal immigrant population -- at 2.3 million) all went to Hillary. If Trump is a response to frustrations over a flood of illegal immigrants, wouldn't you expect to see something different?
While I do think Trump's hard-line stance on illegal immigration was part of his success, I'm wary of pointing to it as the primary reason behind that success -- partly because the demographics don't bare it out, but also because illegal immigration isn't really our biggest problem. Our justice system is fundamentally broken; our education system is in shambles -- our infrastructure is crumbling. Worrying about the crisis of illegal immigration is kind of like worrying about the crisis of 'pot-smoking'; yes, it's against the law, but it's certainly not the problem people are making it out to be.
I mean, if the reason Trump won is because the majority of our population is more concerned with illegal immigration than shit like for-profit prisons... then the problem isn't Trump; the problem is the majority of our population has seriously skewed priorities.
Hippo, you're looking at this from the wrong area. You need to peruse Foxnews and see what the conservative audience is seeing. It's all violence, hot women, and persecution of christians by gays.
We haven't even gotten to Breitbart and conservative talk radio. There it's all news about whites being persecuted, and denials of Trump's Russia connections. It's an untethered worldview, but a worldview that has millions of followers who are in charge.