pogrmman wrote: Quantized wrote:
jewish_scientist wrote:4 and a half new pages have been added since I was last here. That was about 19 hours ago. I do not know how to respond in this situation. Help?
Which situation are you talking about? The forum posts or the president?
Probably the forum posts, this is moving crazy fast.
I think that the Democrats do
need to change their strategy somewhat to reduce the Republican's strength in congress. In part, I think that they should really, really push voters to vote in the midterm elections. I'm not sure exactly how they should change their strategy, but it is clear that it's not really working.
I think part of the issue is that Democrats don't seem to appeal to rural voters -- I mean, look at a county by county map of the US. The Democrats won most of the major urban areas, but lost most of the rural areas.
In states with a less urban population, this is likely to mean that the Republicans will keep winning.
I get why the Democrats don't exactly resonate with the voters in rural areas, but it might make sense to try and do something to get them to vote more blue. They are around 1/2 of the electorate! Even if they don't turn their counties Democratic, it could reduce Republican margins in close states. If they could do that without changing their platform enough to lose urban votes, they should do it.
On another note, there is this.
Supposedly, Trump will continue protections for the LGBT community in the workplace. It's a start, but I'm not exactly sure this will continue. I'm afraid that the administration will try and get the Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges overturned. Unfortunately, it seems like this has a chance of happening what with the new justice and all.
Quite a number of my friends aren't straight, and it would be awful to see some of their rights taken away.
I absolutely agree that Democrats need to reach out to rural voters. I think it could really revitalize the party, and it would be much more natural for them than reaching out to conservative Christians.
Just to throw out some ideas that are probably naive, but along the lines that Democrats should be thinking: Getting farmers out from under the thumbs of the corporation's they contract with. Revitalizing and updating rural roads, dams, and irrigation infrastructure. Making water rights in the southwest more accessible to ordinary property owners. Shuffle some of the self-employment taxes off of small family businesses and onto large corporations. Hell, decouple education funding from local property taxes and you'll help rural AND inner-city schools in one move. Even gentrification, without the racial component, is a problem in my hometown as wealthy Californians are retiring to the area for the scenery and driving property values way up. Call it something different and they'll listen.
Same goes for environmentalism. Use local issues to sell global warming action. In my state, we've got oyster farmers in swing federal districts struggling with ocean acidification. Find a moderate timber company CEO who is concerned about the recent bark beetle epidemics and give them a platform to speak. Grab a bunch of fishermen who are worried about the decline in salmon, let them do the talking for you. These rural counties have Democrats, just not enough to win. Just get the city Democrats to back out of the spotlight for awhile.
Maybe some of those ideas are dumb or impractical, I just rattled some stuff off. But that's what the Democrats brainstorming sessions need to look like right now. These are all the sort of things that Democrats used to do well, and they wouldn't need to change the platform much at all. If the base is uncomfortable with the attention being paid to rural whites, use the language of intersectionality in front of those crowds to talk about the rural poor and emphasize how close to the environment these people are. Liberals really want to be compassionate, and if you give them a chance, I think they're absolutely willing to expand the tent in that manner.
I don't think white nationalism is the natural inclination of these people, they just want to be heard. Honestly, most of them have never spoken to a black person, and they just have zero context. If this goes on too long, the problem might be cemented further, but right now I think they can still be pulled away from all this crap they're just kinda going along with now. I know it's hard to forgive them for that, but it's really out of a lack of experience with any kind of diversity rather than intentional hate. Pulling them off the brink before that changes is worth some forgiveness even if you feel it hasn't been earned.
Full disclosure, I grew up in the conservative rural part of a blue state, but I've always been a pretty academically-minded liberal. I dislike city life even though culturally I fit in a lot better here, and I can't do my work back home. My take is that the disconnect with rural issues is the most fundamental reason Democrats do poorly in those counties, and that if they could fix that they would be a force to be reckoned with.