Your math doesn't seem to add up.jewish_scientist wrote:The first election where I knew the names of the candidates was McCain vs. Obama. For every presidential election that I, and probably most of my generation remember, the Republicans have nominated someone who could not win*. If Trump becomes the Republican nominee, then 16 years of our lives will have been spent the thinking 'Republicans are stupid'.
McCain vs Obama was 8 years ago, and the generation that remembers only that election and later isn't allowed to vote yet. And your comments elsewhere suggest you're older than that. Unless you mean as the first election they participated in?
Also, Trump winning this election would only add 4 years of stupid nomination.
Their theology seems wonky to me, and I expect it seems an added layer of wonky to atheists. But the Mormons I've actually met (never been to Utah) have treated others reasonably and with respect and compassion; so I'll judge them on that.leady wrote:Slight aside, but Mormonism... is that treated as the insanity that it really is In the states?
The importance of theology is often overstated, and outsiders tend to be spectacularly bad at determining the implications of theology.
That complete lack of nuance doesn't help either. When your rhetoric is dichotomous like that, the good half can sound very Orwellian.leady wrote:People who live off bread and circuses are hard to convert to the idea of self reliance and personal liberty I fear
Deliberate conspiracies like that are indeed rare (because incompetence), but policies with system consequences other than the stated goal are very common.Tyndmyr wrote:Any "gop conspiracy" tale runs into a pretty basic issue of competence. I just have a really, really hard time believing that this lot is good enough to pull together a half decent plot to do anything, given demonstrated results.
Sardia is likely referring to efforts to prevent voter fraud, that primarily affect under-documented citizens trying to vote legitimately. Of course you're right in that this incompetence can't be re-targeted wherever the GOP wishes.