0893: "65 Years"

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0893: "65 Years"

Postby ftarp » Mon May 02, 2011 4:02 am UTC

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Alt-text: "The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision."

...Well that's depressing.
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0893: "65 Years"

Postby SW15243 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:02 am UTC

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Alt Text: "The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision."

EDIT: Added the alt-text
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Re: 893: 65 Years

Postby rwald » Mon May 02, 2011 4:03 am UTC

I know, an xkcd without a title text? It really says something about the state of the world.

Also, the no-more-people-who-walked-on-other-worlds thing.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby sportsracer48 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:04 am UTC

I see a trend.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years" Discussion

Postby duckshirt » Mon May 02, 2011 4:04 am UTC

Why assume nobody else will? It might not be in NASA's immediate plans but 20-30 years is a long time.
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Re: 893: 65 Years

Postby ftarp » Mon May 02, 2011 4:04 am UTC

rwald wrote:I know, an xkcd without a title text? It really says something about the state of the world.

Also, the no-more-people-who-walked-on-other-worlds thing.

Yeah, I was mostly going for the second one, there.

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Re: 893: 65 Years

Postby A_of_s_t » Mon May 02, 2011 4:05 am UTC

rwald wrote:I know, an xkcd without a title text? It really says something about the state of the world.

Also, the no-more-people-who-walked-on-other-worlds thing.

I too am depressed about the lack of alt text.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby SW15243 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:06 am UTC

I think the chart is just in reference to people who have already walked on the moon. As in, they'll all be dead pretty quick here.

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Re: 0893: 65 Years

Postby phlip » Mon May 02, 2011 4:08 am UTC

There's title text now:
"The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision."

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Cal27 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:08 am UTC

Edit: ninja'd

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Doodle77 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:13 am UTC

The fact that NASA has no plans to send anyone to the moon anytime soon doesn't that other nations won't.

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Re: 0893: 65 Years

Postby Cobramaster » Mon May 02, 2011 4:13 am UTC

May we be continue being irrational and document some graves.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby The Scyphozoa » Mon May 02, 2011 4:20 am UTC

This is marginally more intellectually stimulating than Pop Tart Cat.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby duckshirt » Mon May 02, 2011 4:21 am UTC

SW15243 wrote:I think the chart is just in reference to people who have already walked on the moon. As in, they'll all be dead pretty quick here.

Yeah, but it also seems (pessimistically) implying no one will go to the moon / Mars in the next 30 years...
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Re: 0893: 65 Years

Postby soren121 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:23 am UTC

This strip makes absolutely no sense to me. Can I bother someone to explain it for me, please? :oops:
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby SW15243 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:24 am UTC

duckshirt wrote:
SW15243 wrote:I think the chart is just in reference to people who have already walked on the moon. As in, they'll all be dead pretty quick here.

Yeah, but it also seems (pessimistically) implying no one will go to the moon / Mars in the next 30 years...

In this day and age it's 100x easier to send a robot, is the thing. I dunno if we WILL send anyone in the next 30 years.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby teucer » Mon May 02, 2011 4:25 am UTC

Reminds me of this (mp3).

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Comic JK » Mon May 02, 2011 4:25 am UTC

I think the only think that would stop us is global nuclear war...

In which case those life bars will drop off rather more sharply.
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Re: 0893: 65 Years

Postby ferrettt55 » Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 am UTC

Well, Soren121, I'll explain it for you tomorrow. Until then, don't think about it too hard. You need a qualified Explanation Assisstant to help you through this.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby TheChewanater » Mon May 02, 2011 4:35 am UTC

Did anyone else think this has something to do with Y2k38 before reading the subtitle?
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby JustMe » Mon May 02, 2011 4:38 am UTC

Unless something changes soon, we're not going anywhere. This is depressingly accurate.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Maxpm » Mon May 02, 2011 4:40 am UTC

I don't understand the "protected from actuarial tables" part. Could someone please explain?

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby snakedriver » Mon May 02, 2011 4:43 am UTC

Privatization. Just because a bloating, failing government agency is being shut down does not mean we will not reach other worlds again. SpaceX, Blue Frontier and others are already taking bids for commercial sub-orbit flights, how long before there is a Hilton Luna?

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby wisnij » Mon May 02, 2011 4:43 am UTC

Maxpm wrote:I don't understand the "protected from actuarial tables" part. Could someone please explain?

It's "proJECted from actuarial tables".
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby toastar » Mon May 02, 2011 4:44 am UTC

Um....

I personally don't consider the moon a world.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Maxpm » Mon May 02, 2011 4:46 am UTC

wisnij wrote:
Maxpm wrote:I don't understand the "protected from actuarial tables" part. Could someone please explain?

It's "proJECted from actuarial tables".


Oooh. That makes a lot more sense. Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby arbivark » Mon May 02, 2011 4:50 am UTC

another world is the only soap i ever watched (ok a few eps of passions.)
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Re: 0893: "65 Years" Discussion

Postby Arancaytar » Mon May 02, 2011 4:51 am UTC

Depressing.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby suso » Mon May 02, 2011 4:54 am UTC

The universe is also littered with people who are too impatient to wait for their society to catch up with their dreams.

We'll get there, unfortunately probably not in our lifetimes. But imagine the disappointment of Kepler and Galileo that they couldn't reach the moon in their lifetime.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby mania » Mon May 02, 2011 4:55 am UTC

toastar wrote:Um....

I personally don't consider the moon a world.


This one troubles me too. I generally think.. world = planet.

Looking it up on wiktionary didn't help.

.. although I suppose reference.com is probably right in it's definition of "heavenly body". Still doesn't sit the best with me =/.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby KitsuneKnight » Mon May 02, 2011 4:56 am UTC

The alt text:
The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision.



Now that's fairly depressing.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby ARandomDude » Mon May 02, 2011 4:58 am UTC

The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision.




I think it was the sensible decision on Firefly. Or did Randall forget about that.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby A_of_s_t » Mon May 02, 2011 4:59 am UTC

I guess this thread is the winner.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby SW15243 » Mon May 02, 2011 5:06 am UTC

A_of_s_t wrote:I guess this thread is the winner.

I shall celebrate my so-called victory with quiet dignity.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby riddler » Mon May 02, 2011 5:09 am UTC

The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision.


I think the Universe is probably littered with one-planet graves of several different cultures. The dinosaurs were around before us and most are now extinct. Just because humans are smarter than dinosaurs, doesn't mean that we'll last longer. In fact, it appears our intelligence will destroy us much faster, even if we did get a lot further. It won't be enough.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby VectorZero » Mon May 02, 2011 5:20 am UTC

:(

That's quite the depressing graph. Hope he's wrong.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Roĝer » Mon May 02, 2011 5:25 am UTC

The most likely candidate to add to this table is China.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby CorruptUser » Mon May 02, 2011 5:30 am UTC

There's a 5% chance that all of the people who walked on the moon will be dead by 2022? I'll need to check the math on that. (Actuary here). Oh, it's not mathematically sound to use a normal approximation with only 9 people.

Ok, an 80 yr old male has a roughly 27% chance of living another 11 years, and a 76 yr old male has a 41% chance, 5 of them are roughly 80 and 4 roughly 76. The chance of all of them being dead by 2022 is thus .025 or 2.5%. Sorry, the 5% mark is at least to 2023.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby SW15243 » Mon May 02, 2011 5:33 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:There's a 5% chance that all of the people who walked on the moon will be dead by 2022? I'll need to check the math on that. (Actuary here). Oh, it's not mathematically sound to use a normal approximation with only 9 people.

I thought that '5th percentile' meant that the so-called 'weakest' 5 percent of them would be dead by 2022...?
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby jpk » Mon May 02, 2011 5:37 am UTC

The alt text reminds me of a quote I've seen attributed to Jerry Pournelle (unless memory fails me):
"I always knew I'd see the first men walk on the moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last"

Guess what, kids - it's getting harder and harder to make that trip. In a week or so, depending on the length of the current delay, the US will have no capability to launch manned space flights. Not that the shuttle was ever going to make it to the moon, but right now we're moving steadily away from the idea.

Is it any comfort to suppose that we may have found the answer to the Fermi paradox?


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