0626: "Newton and Leibniz"

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0626: "Newton and Leibniz"

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:00 am UTC

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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:01 am UTC

I don't get the derivative part. I mean, I understand what it is in terms of calculus, but the joke escapes me on this one.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby plin25 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:01 am UTC

I predicted the alt-text after seeing the last panel
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby eleniy86 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:02 am UTC

MYAH!!!

love this debate

though i think my favorite part is the matrix glasses :D
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby akrolsmir » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:02 am UTC

In english, another meaning for derivative is something like "based on what has come before; unoriginal".

here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/derivative
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:03 am UTC

plin25 wrote:I predicted the alt-text after seeing the last panel


The alt text is quite predictable; it's the same as the title, always. You're confusing it with the title text. Alt = alternative, title = hover. ;)

akrolsmir wrote:In english, another meaning for derivative is something like "based on what has come before; unoriginal"


Ah, thanks. The "unoriginal" part I did not know.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zero51423 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:04 am UTC

That's terrible. I feel like somebody just stabbed me in the kidneys because of how terrible that pun was.



Excellent work, It is now proven that comics can inflict physical pain... :D
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Shale » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:06 am UTC

Zero51423 wrote:That's terrible. I feel like somebody just stabbed me in the kidneys because of how terrible that pun was.


That's pretty much what I came here to say, and copying someone else's comment certainly fits with the spirit of the comic.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Omegaton » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:07 am UTC

Man, that pun was epic. Loved it.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby SunDawg » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:08 am UTC

I really thought that Newton in the 3rd panel was wearing a coonskin hat and I had to double check that the comic wasn't about Daniel Boone...
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby kev015 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:08 am UTC

It hurts Randall, it BURNS.

Why, Randall, why? I thought you loved me :(

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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Pietro » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:10 am UTC

Looks like neoliminal is keeping his dignity.

Also, sweet jesus in heaven. Xkcd "humor" is now bordering on Brightly Wound. RANDALL, GO ON SABBATICAL. GIVE YOURSELF TIME TO GET IDEAS. IF GARY LARSON NEEDED IT, YOU SURE AS HELL AREN'T ABOVE IT.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:11 am UTC

Shale wrote:
Zero51423 wrote:That's terrible. I feel like somebody just stabbed me in the kidneys because of how terrible that pun was.


That's pretty much what I came here to say, and copying someone else's comment certainly fits with the spirit of the comic.


You get what you ask for. Didn't someone ask for a comic with a bad pun on Wednesday in response to "Collections"?

Yes, here it is:

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You forgetful silly sausage you, here's hoping you'll at least take the time to write a bad joke next time :)


http://echochamber.me/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44034&start=40#p1740147
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby RogueA » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:12 am UTC

Threw this together real quick from the Caruso Comic blank. Thought it was appropriate.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby glasnt » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:13 am UTC

This is one of those comics where long-time fans can show this comic to others not already engrossed by the xkcd phenomenon, thereby both parties getting laughs.

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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Viqsi » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:14 am UTC

I registered just so I could post a contradictory opinion here. To wit: I just about died laughing.

I wonder what that says about me.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Introbulus » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:15 am UTC

...Oh god...

It was...it was a pun? I....

...I totally should've caught that! Me and my dad make bad puns all day long! Oh...ow...

Well...I still don't get the sunglasses. I mean sure, it's wacky, but why sunglasses? Are they referencing something else as well?
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby bloodavenger9 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:17 am UTC

so anyone here thinks that it was actually Leibniz who invented calculus?
so you know i could build a time machine, go back and prevent anyone from ever discovering calculus... oh wait i can't to build the machine i need cal :( :(
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby RogueA » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:17 am UTC

Introbulus wrote:...Oh god...

It was...it was a pun? I....

...I totally should've caught that! Me and my dad make bad puns all day long! Oh...ow...

Well...I still don't get the sunglasses. I mean sure, it's wacky, but why sunglasses? Are they referencing something else as well?


This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:18 am UTC

RogueA wrote:Threw this together real quick from the Caruso Comic blank. Thought it was appropriate.


Typo alert! "invited" -> "invented"

On a side note, shouldn't it really be "discovered"? You can't really invent math; it just sort of... is. I guess calculus could be classified as a technique, but even still, discovered seems more appropriate.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zelda007 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:19 am UTC

This is actually pretty hilarious for me. Mostly because we have just started derivatives in Calculus yesterday. Randall couldn't have had more perfect timing than this for me.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Latowski » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:19 am UTC

Newton invented Fluxions.

Then Leibniz invented Calculus, which was the same thing.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Brooklynxman » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:21 am UTC

I have been doing this for a while with everything.

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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:21 am UTC

Latowski wrote:Newton invented Fluxions.

Then Leibniz invented Calculus, which was the same thing.


Sweet name. I'm going to call it Fluxions class from now on.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby bloodavenger9 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:21 am UTC

Zenexer wrote:On a side note, shouldn't it really be "discovered"? You can't really invent math; it just sort of... is. I guess calculus could be classified as a technique, but even still, discovered seems more appropriate.


well not really since math is just a set of rules determined by men to understand the world ( dare i say physics? lol). So its not really there at the begining...

edit: ok this is weird, why did my "l o l" become !cheese is burning me?!?!?!?!!!!?!??!
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:22 am UTC

This is what I call "whacking people with teh Pun Hammer", when I do it. And I do it a lot. It's an integral part of my personality. I wouldn't be functional without it.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby zorph » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:24 am UTC

it may be a pun but it features newton with sunglasses so all is forgiven
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:25 am UTC

bloodavenger9 wrote:
Zenexer wrote:On a side note, shouldn't it really be "discovered"? You can't really invent math; it just sort of... is. I guess calculus could be classified as a technique, but even still, discovered seems more appropriate.


well not really since math is just a set of rules determined by men to understand the world ( dare i say physics? ¡This cheese is burning me!). So its not really there at the begining...

edit: ok this is weird, why did my "¡This cheese is burning me!" become !cheese is burning me?!?!?!?!!!!?!??!


Well, that's why I said, "I guess it could be classified as technique." But "discovered" seems more fitting. The rules are really already in place; math is just our way of understanding them.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby bloodavenger9 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:26 am UTC

nah im still hypnotized by the Newton with sunglasses
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Introbulus » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:28 am UTC

RogueA wrote:
Introbulus wrote:...Oh god...

It was...it was a pun? I....

...I totally should've caught that! Me and my dad make bad puns all day long! Oh...ow...

Well...I still don't get the sunglasses. I mean sure, it's wacky, but why sunglasses? Are they referencing something else as well?


This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948


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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Zenexer » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:28 am UTC

Introbulus wrote:
RogueA wrote:
Introbulus wrote:...Oh god...

It was...it was a pun? I....

...I totally should've caught that! Me and my dad make bad puns all day long! Oh...ow...

Well...I still don't get the sunglasses. I mean sure, it's wacky, but why sunglasses? Are they referencing something else as well?


This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948


...I'm still not going to watch any CSI: Miami, even if it does help me understand XKCD. <.<; I will remain strong.


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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Jack21222 » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:30 am UTC

bloodavenger9 wrote:
Zenexer wrote:On a side note, shouldn't it really be "discovered"? You can't really invent math; it just sort of... is. I guess calculus could be classified as a technique, but even still, discovered seems more appropriate.


well not really since math is just a set of rules determined by men to understand the world ( dare i say physics? ¡This cheese is burning me!). So its not really there at the begining...

edit: ok this is weird, why did my "l o l" become !cheese is burning me?!?!?!?!!!!?!??!


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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Introbulus » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:30 am UTC

Zenexer wrote:
Introbulus wrote:
RogueA wrote:
Introbulus wrote:...Oh god...

It was...it was a pun? I....

...I totally should've caught that! Me and my dad make bad puns all day long! Oh...ow...

Well...I still don't get the sunglasses. I mean sure, it's wacky, but why sunglasses? Are they referencing something else as well?


This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948


...I'm still not going to watch any CSI: Miami, even if it does help me understand XKCD. <.<; I will remain strong.


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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby skine » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:31 am UTC

bloodavenger9 wrote:so anyone here thinks that it was actually Leibniz who invented calculus?
so you know i could build a time machine, go back and prevent anyone from ever discovering calculus... oh wait i can't to build the machine i need cal :( :(

I would say that both of them invented calculus. One just decided to keep in his desk drawer and the other decided to publish.

For better or for worse, in most other cases, and in case of two or more introductory prepositional phrases, it is the original publisher who gets the credit instead of the inventor. Such as Ohm's Law, Dalton's Law of Partial Pressure, Richter's Law of Reciprocal Motion, the principals of electronic conductivity, Charles Law of Gases, and probably anything else discovered by Henry Cavendish.



Regardless, Choco Leibniz > Fig Newton.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby skine » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:37 am UTC

Jack21222 wrote:Congrats, you discovered the filter.

I learned filters on i-am-bored.com, and am quite used to their filters, even to the point where I read what curse words get changed to as their original intent.

For example, I read drat as f**k. It does have flaws as c**kroach turns to roosterroach, and, on occasion, f**k turns into "i'm a pretty pretty princess."
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby Solo » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:40 am UTC

Shale wrote:
Zero51423 wrote:That's terrible. I feel like somebody just stabbed me in the kidneys because of how terrible that pun was.


That's pretty much what I came here to say, and copying someone else's comment certainly fits with the spirit of the comic.

One might even go so far as to say that it is integral to the plot.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby skine » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:42 am UTC

Solo wrote:
Shale wrote:
Zero51423 wrote:That's terrible. I feel like somebody just stabbed me in the kidneys because of how terrible that pun was.


That's pretty much what I came here to say, and copying someone else's comment certainly fits with the spirit of the comic.

One might even go so far as to say that it is integral to the plot.

Sorry, I think you're going off on a tangent.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby FCN » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:44 am UTC

I like the reference to Newton's work in optics, as he invented the prism, the reflecting telescope, and the sunglasses.
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby joee » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:47 am UTC

Randall and glasnt, I love you both
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Re: "Newton and Leibniz" Discussion

Postby ArborlonElf » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:49 am UTC

skine wrote:
Solo wrote:
Shale wrote:
Zero51423 wrote:That's terrible. I feel like somebody just stabbed me in the kidneys because of how terrible that pun was.


That's pretty much what I came here to say, and copying someone else's comment certainly fits with the spirit of the comic.

One might even go so far as to say that it is integral to the plot.

Sorry, I think you're going off on a tangent.


Sorry, that's trig.
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