0606: "Cutting Edge"

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0606: "Cutting Edge"

Postby glasnt » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:03 am UTC

ANNOUNCEMENT: Hi joee! :mrgreen:

And now back to our regularly scheduled comic discussion thread.

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Alt: I remember trying to log in to the original Command and Conquer servers a year or two back and feeling like I was knocking on the boarded-up gates of a ghost town.


And I thought I was out of date trying to make my own WCC in early 2008 -_-
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby mchainmail » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:03 am UTC

C&C was ftw.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby TurtleMidget » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:03 am UTC

Damn you, 3 seconds prior to mine!

But I know the feeling. I've pulled the last panel on a couple of occasions.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby TheHand » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:04 am UTC

It is a damn good way to save money. I have some friends who do more or less just that!

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby aleflamedyud » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:07 am UTC

I do that with a lot of games... actually, pretty much my entire Steam account except for Portal. I bought the Orange Box, Assassin's Creed, and Psychonauts well after their prices had gone down.

It also helps to ensure that bugs have been worked out and any new features the publisher wanted to add in have gone in.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby topherhooper » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:09 am UTC

I didn't get the reference in the last panel. Anyone?

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:10 am UTC

I used to do this. Back in those days I got my computers about five years after they were new, so it was pretty much mandatory.

The other drawback of course is that you can't ever hang out with video game nerds, or you'll have some key plot twists spoiled for you ahead of time. The aforementioned cake, for instance......
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby pianom4n » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:10 am UTC

Portal was yesterday's featured article on Wikipedia. Coincidence?

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby TheHand » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:11 am UTC

Ah, and the same thing can be said of movies, or nearly any medium. Sure the technology wasn't as good back then, but the good art still holds up.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby glasnt » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:14 am UTC

Oh dear.. I have this song in my head now... I tried to replace it with anything else.. but it's stuck.


Has anyone else started a drunken sing-a-long to 'Still Alive' with a room full of intoxicated geeks? I haven't. We were actually walking along the streets in the wee hours. We ended up rickrolling the fuzz as well. That was a good night.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Turtle_ » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:14 am UTC

Wow, the day after Portal is the featured article on wikipedia. That's an interesting coincidence.

EDIT: Oops, someone already pointed that out. Now I guess I have to add something new. For a long time my computer was pretty bad. Just recently I got one that was actually reasonable for playing games, so now I'm playing the things people were talking about a long time ago.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby sircheeziusbreezius » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:16 am UTC

Get outta my head Randall!
This is how I have always been. The most I've ever payed for a game is like $30 and my big birthday present last year was a ps2, instead of a ps3 or 360 xD
I feel a little smug about it because the ps2 has such great longevitiy and I get all the big games that my friends have on 360 for waaaay less, but then I lose out with the online thing and platform exclusive releases, but whatevs. I got monies :D

Also, until only a couple years ago, we were still running Windows 98 on one of our computers ftw :D
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby pyroman » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:19 am UTC

I too tend to play games on a bit of a time lag although not quite as extreme (in most cases). For me about a year or two works pretty well. I was able to play crysis without having to buy super computing time.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Carnildo » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:20 am UTC

My standard is "less than $20" rather than "five years". It's a good way of filtering out the crap: if people are still talking about it, it's probably a good game.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby formerJIM33333 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:20 am UTC

This is happening to me right now with movies and music. I finally watched Terminator about a week ago. Too bad it doesn't happen as often with video games. Damn Wii. Bye, money!

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby muktowngiant68 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:31 am UTC

The cake is a lie.... wow now i need to go play portal again, thanks...

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby WazirKnightBishop » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:32 am UTC

topherhooper wrote:I didn't get the reference in the last panel. Anyone?


It was the video game Portal.

Obligatory Wikipedia Link wrote:...These "backstage" areas, which are in extreme disrepair, stand in stark contrast to the pristine test chambers. The graffiti includes statements such as "the cake is a lie" and pastiches of Emily Dickinson's poem "The Chariot," "Because I Could Not Stop For Death," and Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's "The Reaper and the Flowers" mourning the death of...

tl;dr: the underlined bit.

Mind, I was extremely close to letting this go through; I followed the link in "today's featured article". I have always thought that the Cake Lie (as I like to term it) was some kind of spur-of-the-moment utterance that got popular.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Quicksilver » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:36 am UTC

This comic is pretty inaccurate. I can play Portal on a Celeron D, the game was designed from the start for low end computers and high end so there was no excuse to have not played the game.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Zylon » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:39 am UTC

I do this as well. The lower price is almost just the cherry on top of getting games in their maximally patched state. I doubt I would have enjoyed Anachronox and Vampire: Bloodlines nearly as much without all the much-needed fan patching.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby racoonjwoolsey » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:41 am UTC

:oops: This comic is so me...

I used to do this. Back in those days I got my computers about five years after they were new, so it was pretty much mandatory


:oops: :oops: :oops: I second this.

My computer is a dell pentium 3 optiplex gx1.

It is a beige tower.

It has about 316 MB ram.

And other than games, you'd never know it wasn't new.

Also, it runs flash CS4 like a dream.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby sje46 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:43 am UTC

Quicksilver wrote:This comic is pretty inaccurate. I can play Portal on a Celeron D, the game was designed from the start for low end computers and high end so there was no excuse to have not played the game.

Who said he was playing it on a computer?
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Whispering » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:43 am UTC

Cake is a lie but pi is truth.

I know how the alt-text goes I can't stand going back to old games and not finding anyone playing except for Koreans, nothing against you guys but I don't speak that language. Well that and they tend to beat you in 10 seconds. Anyone up for Red Alert: Yuri's Revenge?
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby loudambiance » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:46 am UTC

That's funny, yesteday I installed some of my older games: Diablo 1 & 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Tribes Vengeance, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time and Warrior Within, Starcraft, Serious Sam and a couple others... made me giggle a little to read this one...

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Sir-Taco » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:51 am UTC

Now I want to load up my copy of Quake II and check the servers online to see, or even Quake I. Sadly I'm actually falling into that rut, Im gonna need to upgrade my rig to even decently play todays most recent games.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby quadripedman » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:52 am UTC

Uh, Randal, what are you doing in my head? I just got HL2 a few weeks ago ($2 at Good Will and a few hours of some questionabally legal maneuvers involving falsifying a receipt and other such things) and have been playing it non-stop.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:53 am UTC

Portal was my gateway drug. I resisted for a while but eventually found myself playing Half-Life Source, and then HL2 and the episodes.
Half-Life 2 and the eps are still fun to replay now and again, even if it's just a few sections.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby pugtm » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:57 am UTC

i believe this comic illustrates one of the biggest problems with the current business model of the video game industry. The people who can buy and have time are too old and have better things to do(generally) and the 12-20 year olds generally don't have the currency. like me stuck with a computer 9 years old and paying for college next year on my own. still waiting to play empire total war. oh well, eventually moores law will take care of it i hope.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Durandal » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:57 am UTC

quadripedman wrote:Uh, Randal, what are you doing in my head? I just got HL2 a few weeks ago ($2 at Good Will and a few hours of some questionabally legal maneuvers involving falsifying a receipt and other such things) and have been playing it non-stop.

That's actually what we call a 'coincidence'.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Storm » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:03 am UTC

Hmm, I just end up playing everything new release at friends places, then buy it if I really really like it and feel I could play it forever. I must admit I should buy portal.. I've played it so many times. Brilliant game.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Zorlin » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:10 am UTC

topherhooper wrote:I didn't get the reference in the last panel. Anyone?

Then you haven't lived! *shocked gasp*

Off-topic: Finally got a post on the first page of a comic discussion. =D
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Jorpho » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:11 am UTC

Quicksilver wrote:This comic is pretty inaccurate. I can play Portal on a Celeron D, the game was designed from the start for low end computers and high end so there was no excuse to have not played the game.
But they didn't have Celeron D's in 2004, did they? Certainly, they didn't have our shiny new graphics card technology.

My PC backlog scares me. And yep, Half-Life 2 is in there too.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Generic_Guy » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:12 am UTC

This is me. Here's the newest games I have, in order:
1. DROD RPG (google it)
2. DROD: TCB
3. UT2004
4. Quake III
5. UT99
(6. Unreal)

Says a lot, huh? :mrgreen:

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Xyros » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:15 am UTC

After seeing that comic I...I suddenly feel like singing...Come on everybody, join in!

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby Zorlin » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:15 am UTC

My collection of PC (retail) games is pretty shameful and mostly at least a year or two old.

- The Orange Box (complete)
- Audiosurf
- Midtown Madness 2
- Flight Sim (2000, 2004, 2008 w/ expansions etc)

Other than that I mainly play free or open-source games. Cube 2: Sauerbraten, Digital Paint: Paintball2, OpenArena, Nexuiz etc.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby xmillion » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:21 am UTC

I Still play C&C games, :)
and yeah, there's still a lonely person or two in the original C&C servers (i checked)

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Postby Whispering » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:22 am UTC

Zorlin wrote:Other than that I mainly play free or open-source games. Cube 2: Sauerbraten, Digital Paint: Paintball2, OpenArena, Nexuiz etc.


That reminds me I have to go find that 4D game over on Sourceforge. I wonder if it's anymore complete? Open-source games are the best, you don't like something in the game just change it yourself.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby JamesGecko » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:33 am UTC

I do this. Five years is generally the time it takes for integrated graphics cards to become powerful enough to play those games. (Intel X3100 for the win!) You can jump the curve a bit (Oblivion!), but games like that clearly need a lot more hacking and coaxing to run at an acceptable speed. It recently occurred to me that last-gen consoles (and their respective exclusive used games) were really cheap, and there were a lot of great games on them which never hit PC. So now I'm getting ready to play Wind Waker.

Zorlin wrote:Other than that I mainly play free or open-source games. Cube 2: Sauerbraten, Digital Paint: Paintball2, OpenArena, Nexuiz etc.

Don't forget WarSow! Although after getting UT2004 earlier this year, I became disillusioned with the current state of open source FPS games.

Quicksilver wrote:This comic is pretty inaccurate. I can play Portal on a Celeron D, the game was designed from the start for low end computers and high end so there was no excuse to have not played the game.
The comic is fine. I can't run Portal on my Core 2 Duo at any acceptable speed. It's the video card that counts.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby aion7 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:43 am UTC

I've actually thought of doing this before. The problem is competitive multiplayer games. If I start playing TvC or SC2 five years after everyone else, I'm at a huge disadvantage.

JamesGecko wrote:Don't forget WarSow! Although after getting UT2004 earlier this year, I became disillusioned with the current state of open source FPS games.
But, WarSow is just Quake 3 with a random walljump mechanic, less fun weapons and stylish graphics. And Quake 3 is now free also (Quake Live). There's not much reason to play WarSow over Quake Live.
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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby HouseFantastic » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:46 am UTC

I registered only to post that, for a guy who thinks he has a moderate computer, he sure does have a terribly bulky non-lcd monitor. Back to lurking I go, hopefully, unless there are objections to my post, to which I HAVE to respond.

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Re: "Cutting Edge" discussion

Postby william » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:47 am UTC

mchainmail wrote:C&C was ftw.

Indeed. The first two games are actually available for free now, and I recently got them working on Wine. Now I want to set up an xkcd-wide tournament or something of the games, although I haven't tried to get CnCnet working yet.
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