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0541: "TED Talk"

Postby joee » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:05 am UTC

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Alt: The IAU ban came after the 'redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom' incident.

Link: http://xkcd.com/541/

Nice work Randall. I usually put a space, then a closing parenthesis
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Larry Mahnken » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:06 am UTC

This has bugged me for several years (as I often put asides in parentheses ;-) )

I usually just go with an extra space.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby athelas » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:06 am UTC

<3 TED talks. That is all.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby screech » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:06 am UTC

Don't you just use Japanese emotes? ^_^ or n..n avoid all the confusion.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby TheHand » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:06 am UTC

I just let it hang out like in the first example (as such :)

Then I don't put a period after it.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Jedifreak » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:06 am UTC

I'd reccomend the math solution. Example.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby vodka.cobra » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:07 am UTC

To beg the question, does the IAU's president's mom have sufficient gravitational pull to clear out all debris from the area surrounding her? Does she have sufficient mass? If so, she's a planet.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby TheHand » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:07 am UTC

Oh dear... that was a mistake haha

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Meloncov » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:07 am UTC

I wonder what would happen if they actually did invite Randall to speak at siggraph.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby eleniy86 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:08 am UTC

they should just add specific keystrokes to automatically make the smiley faces horizontal instead of vertical....like have the computer recognize it is a specific and special pair of keystrokes

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby nahtanoj999 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:09 am UTC

This is an important question. How to answer it? (: Like this? :)

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby joeyhndc » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:09 am UTC

I too have struggled with this problem. Let me be the first to say that my sentiments closely mirror those of the author of this strip, and that he should vacate my cortex posthaste.

(There's still plenty of room in my reptilian brain, Randall. You seem like the kind of person that would like preprocessing raw data streams, screwing with emotions and making sure the levels of everything are correct.)

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby A. Smith » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:11 am UTC

Am I the only one that totally wants a Randall TED talk?

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Jedifreak » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:13 am UTC

A. Smith wrote:Am I the only one that totally wants a Randall TED talk?

I think everyone here does. It's kinda assumed.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Elizabeth... » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:13 am UTC

Personally, I enjoy appositional phrases.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby masher » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:14 am UTC

Am I the only one going "What's TED?"

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby GreenReaper » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:16 am UTC

As a staff member of Anthrocon, I should note that while Mr. Munroe's choice of lecture topics are a matter of great concern for us, they have not yet resulted in a ban from our membership.

Also, you should do it the first way.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby flexfalelo » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:17 am UTC

I use backwards smileys (:

Advantages:
- No annoying emoticon replacements.
- Smile looks down on the sentence it applies to.
- Slightly better bracket performance (this is an example (: )

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Shadic » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:19 am UTC

flexfalelo wrote:I use backwards smileys (:

Advantages:
- No annoying emoticon replacements.
- Smile looks down on the sentence it applies to.
- Slightly better bracket performance (this is an example (: )

But what if you start something in parenthesis with a smily? ((: Like this!)

Anyways, I typically just put a space or three.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby StClair » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:19 am UTC

That is indeed a serious issue. (I go with option 2, myself. :) )

As to the other question, may we presume (to begin the discussion) that the body in question has enough mass and gravitation to assume a spherical shape?
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby sadleric » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:20 am UTC

Failure. Only with formal writing should you bother with parenthetical statements. Only with informal writing would you use smiley faces. NEVER should the need for both arise.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby dennisw » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:21 am UTC

Similarly, I like how title text pretty much forces you to nest single quotes. I suppose you could fake it with doubled single quotes like so:

The IAU ban came after the ''redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom'' incident.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Elizabeth... » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:23 am UTC

I feel that comic 89 applies directly to the issue of the presiden't mother's weight.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Scarlet » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:24 am UTC

Aside: Am I the only one who uses = instead of : as eyes?
Then again, I used the Asian faces a lot (and they don't seem to have this problem ^__^)
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Jedifreak » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:26 am UTC

I still vote for the mathematical solution.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby berto17 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:27 am UTC

Haha!

Like this: "(blah blah :])"
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Random832 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:28 am UTC

...Linux (or BSD ) would...

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Jedifreak » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:28 am UTC

Going with the Panik Entertrainment solution eh? =]
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby sargeras0000 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:29 am UTC

dennisw wrote:Similarly, I like how title text pretty much forces you to nest single quotes. I suppose you could fake it with doubled single quotes like so:

The IAU ban came after the ''redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom'' incident.


But what do you do when you need to triple-quote? That's always bugged me.

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby jspenguin » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:29 am UTC

masher wrote:Am I the only one going "What's TED?"


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dennisw wrote:Similarly, I like how title text pretty much forces you to nest single quotes. I suppose you could fake it with doubled single quotes like so:

The IAU ban came after the ''redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom'' incident.


But what do you do when you need to triple-quote? That's always bugged me.


You can alternate: the title text said, 'The IAU ban came after the ''redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom'' incident.'

I think there is some esoteric programming language that forces you to do this.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby TizzyFoe » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:31 am UTC

Scarlet wrote:Aside: Am I the only one who uses = instead of : as eyes?
Then again, I used the Asian faces a lot (and they don't seem to have this problem ^__^)


I switched to = when aim started converting plain text similes into images. To date, i've found no way to suppress this, and of the 8 million different flavors of smiles to choose from none of them are plain text.

Facebook chat converts =) into :) now too, =(.

I think there is no way to put smiles at the end of parenthesis, you just have to avoid them (or do this maybe) =).

masher wrote:Am I the only one going "What's TED?"


no but apparently your the only one who didn't google it.
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Random832 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:31 am UTC

dennisw wrote:Similarly, I like how title text pretty much forces you to nest single quotes. I suppose you could fake it with doubled single quotes like so:

The IAU ban came after the ''redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom'' incident.


gah... &quot;!

as in <img alt="TED Talk" title="The IAU ban came after the &quot;redefinition of 'planet' to include the IAU president's mom&quot; incident. (alt: TED Talk)" src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ted_talk.png" />

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Brooklynxman » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:36 am UTC

IAU's president is more of a planet then Pluto nowaday's ( :( ) I use a space, and love when graphics help, but hate when it does stuff like this (I had a total of 8)
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby LordLandon » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:37 am UTC

flexfalelo wrote:I use backwards smileys (:

Advantages:
- No annoying emoticon replacements.
- Smile looks down on the sentence it applies to.
- Slightly better bracket performance (this is an example (: )

- consistency
*all* emoticons are right-tilted, rather than having =) =( etc left-tilted, but D= and <3 right-tilted


I'm a big proponent of "backwards" smileys C=

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:41 am UTC

nahtanoj999 wrote:This is an important question. How to answer it? (: Like this? :)

Is that how you do it in Spanish?

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby luqui » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:44 am UTC

The obvious solution is to double up your smileys for symmetry (-: and twice the fun :-).

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby princessstacey » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:45 am UTC

It depends if the smiley is going to be turned into a picture or not.

(this looks fine :) )
(... and this : )
(... but not :)
(... or : ))

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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby Mufasa » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:48 am UTC

I had to register just to say this...but, it's been done before
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby ManaUser » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:51 am UTC

I've had this problem too.
Of course with graphical smiles (like this Image) it's not so bad.

Otherwise, I think a possible solution is to put the smiley outside the parentheses (like so) :). I'm sure some will object, but consider that emotions normally go after other punctuation. :) <--(like that) So they already have a somewhat special syntax. Using this rule, you can still distinguish which statement the emotion goes with.

Allow my to illustrate.
I got a new computer (with lots of RAM). :)
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"Happy" parts underlined.

So Randall's example would be "...Linux (or BSD) :) would..."
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Re: "TED Talk" Discussion

Postby TheSkyMovesSideways » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:54 am UTC

Oh god, so I'm not the only onw who's struggled with this problem! *unrelenting joy* :D

Acceptable options, IMO:
- Using graphical smileys, rather than colon(-dash)-closeparen.
- Enclosing the the smiley in parens, but placing a space between the smiley and close paren, and a space after the open paren, for balance.

Neither's ideal, but they're far better than the ugly arse-solution of using the smiley as the close paren.

And I'm not really a fan of backwards smileys either. They're a little too "Look at me! I'm so nonconformist!" for my tastes.

sadleric wrote:Failure. Only with formal writing should you bother with parenthetical statements. Only with informal writing would you use smiley faces. NEVER should the need for both arise.

Interesting. So what if you wanted to indicate that a comment was an aside, or lessen the importance of a component of a sentence (such as an example appended to the end of a question in order to aid understanding, without distracting from the question itself)?
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