1892: "USB Cables"

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1892: "USB Cables"

Postby CelticNot » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:12 pm UTC

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Draconaes » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:16 pm UTC

I'm "needs to be twisted to keep working".

The obvious solution is to have only a single USB cable. Then, it will be the good one.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby HES » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:21 pm UTC

Most of mine fall out the phone too easily (Wileyfox Swift, the port is recessed just a little too much). And the one that stays in the phone securely falls out at the other end, because it's one of those silly "stylish" USB-A's that doesn't have the outer bit.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Reka » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:23 pm UTC

This also applies to the various iterations of iPad/iPhone cables. And it's getting increasingly difficult to find the old-style iPad cables, i.e. pre-Lightning connector. (Yes, I have an iPad 2. Yes, it's no longer being updated. Yes, it still works. No, I'm not getting a new one.)

Forgot to tag myself: I'm "too short".

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Velo Steve » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:55 pm UTC

I'm a USB C - "can't tell which way is up".

And why do I have all these B-connector cables lying around?

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Willl » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:59 pm UTC

Right-angle connectors are a seriously underrated "weird shape". If you want to rest a device on the side that has its USB port (e.g. using most phones in portrait mode while charging) a conventional cable will support the weight of the device on top of the emerging cable, compressing a roughly 90° bend in the wire. This is the reason Randall has two frayed ones...

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby cellocgw » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:04 pm UTC

How come he left out the 4 or 5 huge odd-shaped connectors that showed up in the early days,
not to mention leaving out the various "mini" but not "micro" connectors that were briefly in vogue?
My problem, as you might have guessed, is not finding a USB cable with the right far-end connector for some ancient piece of gear.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Soupspoon » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:08 pm UTC

GOOMmicro-B-portR!

(Forgotten tag: way too long, but needed to occasionally stretch across the room without unplugging anything, so coiled up at all other times.)
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby MDS_Dan » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:38 pm UTC

I have one that switches between carrying power but not data to carrying data but not power at random intervals
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby somitomi » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:43 pm UTC

Reka wrote:This also applies to the various iterations of iPad/iPhone cables. And it's getting increasingly difficult to find the old-style iPad cables, i.e. pre-Lightning connector. (Yes, I have an iPad 2. Yes, it's no longer being updated. Yes, it still works. No, I'm not getting a new one.)
Forgot to tag myself: I'm "too short".

One of the primary reasons I despise Apple is the hideously low-grade accessories they supply with their expensive "state of the art" devices. The cable-fray situation in particular has shown no improvement since the Iphone 3G and yet I recall they charge over $20 for a replacement. No thanks, the 5$ knock-off charger might burn my house down, but just the cable supplied with it is actually worth that sort of money.
Speaking of that, this comic is missing the Proprietary cable you will inevitably lose.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby orthogon » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:04 pm UTC

HES wrote:Most of mine fall out the phone too easily (Wileyfox Swift, the port is recessed just a little too much). And the one that stays in the phone securely falls out at the other end, because it's one of those silly "stylish" USB-A's that doesn't have the outer bit.

One of the most embarrassing incidents of my recent professional career was when I spent an hour or so trying to identify the connector that had come with some bit of kit. It was supposed to be USB, but they'd obviously supplied the wrong thing, or there had been two cables in the box originally and the USB one was missing. Turns out yes, it was one of those. :oops:
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby SuicideJunkie » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:10 pm UTC

somitomi wrote:Speaking of that, this comic is missing the Proprietary cable you will inevitably lose.

That one has already been lost.

I carry power but not data.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby tms » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:32 pm UTC

I have gotten from my cables what I wanted. Granted, that isn't everyday use. That makes me an outlaw, then.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby airdrik » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:39 pm UTC

This pretty accurately describes our house too - somewhere around 10-15 different cables lying around a couple of "charging station" places in our house. Somewhere between 0 and 2 at a given station actually work (depending in part on the device you are trying to use with it). We don't care about data cables because bluetooth/wifi for wireless connections with the computer.
We'd recently accumulated a handful of them over the last several months due to this one no longer working so we go to the (carrier) store and get a new one (which despite costing way to many $s only lasted a couple weeks before deciding it wasn't The One True Cable. (seriously considering getting the $10 wireless charging sticker and a couple wireless charging pads)

I'm "Carries Data but not power" which is really obnoxious because he's really heavy and I don't have the right connectors to charge him.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Envelope Generator » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:39 pm UTC

I was expecting the cables to increase in absurdity as we go down the list, because that's how XKCD lists work. It was a trap!

I don't get the alt text, though.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Flumble » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:56 pm UTC

There are a few Mini-B USB-connected devices left in the house, but most of the cables have slowly desintegrated or have a <200mA adapter on one end, so it's always a fight for which device gets to live. Well, it's not that bad, since most of them go on for weeks after recharging, but my beaglebone needs a constant supply (with or without a data connection) to survive.


Envelope Generator wrote:I don't get the alt text, though.

I believe it's a 'thing people do' nowadays when presenting lists of things: ask others with which of the entries they identify most.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Envelope Generator » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:00 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:
Envelope Generator wrote:I don't get the alt text, though.

I believe it's a 'thing people do' nowadays when presenting lists of things: ask others with which of the entries they identify most.
I'm "carries data but no power".


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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby cryptoengineer » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:13 pm UTC

Missed:
The white one: Constantly mistaken for iPhone cable.
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The one that actually is a black iPhone cable.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Mogster » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:43 pm UTC

I'm sorry Dave, I'm frayed I can't do that.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:54 pm UTC

Can I be several?

I carry data but no power, I charge slowly and won't auto-activate, I have annoying lumps and a weird shape because I'm heavy and not very flexible, I'm extremely frayed from trying to overcome all of the above, which I guess is why I need to be twisted to keep working.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby iabervon » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:20 pm UTC

I read this comic at work (compiling). Then I thought about which one I am. Then I noticed that I was stretching my shoulder without thinking about it before fixing the next test failure. Observation demonstrates that I'm "Needs to be twisted to keep working."

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby MrT2 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:36 pm UTC

I have a USB charger lead for my old PSP (Playstation Portable) that is the only one that can fit my specific PSP, it charges via a fairly standard looking circular DC port, but the contacts in the port have moved a bit, and the plastic insulator in the plug is recessed when it should stick out from the end about 1mm, so the pairing works, but I can't use the mains charger as that has an undamaged plug.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby typo » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:38 am UTC

My phone only charges if the cord is bent up. My tablet only charges if the cord is bent down, and then sometimes it claims to be charging, and shows charging on the battery history graph, but turns out not to have been actually charging. Very annoying.

I also have a Palm sync/charge cable, but I no longer know where the Palm is.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby ucim » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:11 am UTC

My phone only charges when the AC prongs are jiggled just right. (They used to fold, now they flop).

My Palm only charges when... well... when it feels like it. Yes, it indicates it's charging, but it can be "charging" all day and not take a charge. But then sometimes it does. I've tried taking it apart, unplugging the battery and plugging it back in; sometimes that works (it seems more like a religious ritual to me). But lately even that sacrament has no effect. But sometimes it just charges the normal way.

And yes, I still use a Palm; maybe this belongs in the Obsolete Tech thread.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Wee Red Bird » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:04 am UTC

Power without data is helpful when charging at work (some places check for plugged in USB devices and complain when you do) or when charging off an unknown source (eg a friend's PC that could be virus ridden, or a USB charging port at an airport that could be set up to do something nasty to your phone).

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby orthogon » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:22 am UTC

ucim wrote:My phone only charges when the AC prongs are jiggled just right. (They used to fold, now they flop).

My Palm only charges when... well... when it feels like it. Yes, it indicates it's charging, but it can be "charging" all day and not take a charge. But then sometimes it does. I've tried taking it apart, unplugging the battery and plugging it back in; sometimes that works (it seems more like a religious ritual to me). But lately even that sacrament has no effect. But sometimes it just charges the normal way.

And yes, I still use a Palm; maybe this belongs in the Obsolete Tech thread.

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At least they're all USB cables. Come 2019, my compatriots and I can look forward to returning to the days when we had drawers full of incompatible power adapters and data cables. Yay Brexit.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby herbstschweigen » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:31 am UTC

I can't relate to this. 90% of My USB cables are Good Ones. Even if they fall in the other categories, they are still good for some purpose. The short one is just perfect for attaching the external hdd that resides right behind my laptop. And the only frayed one I have is that of my headset, but it still works, and of course it's not a USB connector cable in the strict sense.

orthogon wrote: Come 2019, my compatriots and I can look forward to returning to the days when we had drawers full of incompatible power adapters and data cables. Yay Brexit.


Oh come on, we EUians always have to use power adapters when visiting your island. USB OTOH is not an EU standard.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby HES » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:52 am UTC

herbstschweigen wrote:USB OTOH is not an EU standard.

Micro USB as the standardised phone charger, is.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Wee Red Bird » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:55 am UTC

HES wrote:
herbstschweigen wrote:USB OTOH is not an EU standard.

Micro USB as the standardised phone charger, is.

It's USB C now. Unless you are an Apple.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Soupspoon » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:14 am UTC

The last phone (dumbphone) that I bought, to replace one lost (dropped, not stolen, though apparently still used by someone else before I actually got the replacement's SIM attached to the old number) I was asked if I had the charger for it already. I had chargers for several old phones, including one of that brand (earlier model) but was confused over what to answer because they were all different standards, so which (old/new/revamped) standard of connector was this?

Turned out that it was microUSB (which I did have charger(s) and cable(s) for, for tablets and things), but this was the very first time I'd ever seen this plug used to charge an actual phone of mine, just a few months ago now. And then you're telling me that the next time I replace my phone (at the current rate, another decade hence!) that I'll have some phone-shop assistant barely out of nappies stare at me vacantly when I try to establish a rapport between their "aint it always been that way?" attitude and my own rather more world-weary perspective where I'm probably trying to work out why I'm being asked if I want my phone to actually have the optional keypad on it (at extra cost!), or something else of similar mksexpectation beyond the ken of my increasingly old-fashined stance...

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby orthogon » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:15 am UTC

herbstschweigen wrote:
orthogon wrote: Come 2019, my compatriots and I can look forward to returning to the days when we had drawers full of incompatible power adapters and data cables. Yay Brexit.


Oh come on, we EUians always have to use power adapters when visiting your island. USB OTOH is not an EU standard.

Sorry, I meant power supplies/chargers rather than mains adapters. On the latter issue, the EU has been trying to standardise mains power plugs and sockets too, but of course that's a lot more difficult because of the billions of Euros of installed infrastructure and the decades-long churn times for fixed wiring. There are also other issues, particularly relating to fusing and cable ratings, that mean that it's even more than "just" replacing all the sockets.

Anyway, as HES identified, my main point was that the standardisation on USB is one of many, many excellent answers to the question "what did the EU ever do for us?".

ETA: @Soupspoon: despite the change to USB-C, existing chargers will still work, it's just that you need a different cable. So the amount of electrical waste and the inconvenience of needing multiple chargers is reduced. The device might not charge as fast, though.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby fluffysheap » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:57 am UTC

Plug doesn't fit through case. But they always tell me I just haven't met the right person yet.

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby chrisjwmartin » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:56 pm UTC

I'm "carries data but not power".

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby herbstschweigen » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:33 am UTC

HES wrote:
herbstschweigen wrote:USB OTOH is not an EU standard.

Micro USB as the standardised phone charger, is.


Oh, I wasn't aware of this. But do they still use proprietary chargers in other places of the world? Or has it become a de-facto worldwide standard now?

BTW I don't understand the "plug don't fit through case" one. What case?

And as I forgot it, I'm "too short". Sometimes also "carry data but not power."

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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby commodorejohn » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:12 am UTC

Another missing one: "Works on one of two identical devices, but not the other."
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby cellocgw » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:54 pm UTC

commodorejohn wrote:Another missing one: "Works on one of two identical devices, but not the other."


That's clearly because you have two Fermionic devices. If they were Bos[e]ons, you'd be all set.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby freezeblade » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:52 pm UTC

herbstschweigen wrote:BTW I don't understand the "plug don't fit through case" one. What case?


This would be when you have a hard (or soft) case around your phone, and the hole in the case left for the charge cable is not large enough to let the connector fully plug into the phone. I've found this is the case for some of my older cords which have a beefier plastic part around the actual micro USB connector.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby Steve the Pocket » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:39 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:I believe it's a 'thing people do' nowadays when presenting lists of things: ask others with which of the entries they identify most.
I'm "carries data but no power".

And like most "things people do" nowadays, it almost immediately devolved into self-parody in a way that's not immediately obvious to outsiders and has led to people doing it way more often than when they were serious, because people who think it's funny also think it's funny enough to do 24/7. See also: spirit animals, posting "A E S T H E T I C" or "T H I C C" in response to pretty much everything, deep fried memes, etc.
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Re: 1892: "Why is everyone misspelling 'thick' and what do they mean by it???"

Postby Eternal Density » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:31 am UTC

Yeah I own half or so of these. Including multiple 'need to wiggle and hold for it to work' cables, a couple held together by tape in different ways, and a bonus 'still in the packet for when the good one dies'.
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Re: 1892: "USB Cables"

Postby XavierKCD » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:05 am UTC

I'm 'Carry Power But Not Data' x10 bought cheaply from ebay. Because the 10 combined will outlast the official one.


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