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1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Wee Red Bird » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:39 am UTC

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Alt text: Charles, I just talked to John and Mildred, who run that company selling seeds and nuts, and their kids with MOUTHS are starving!


Nothing wrong with having a beak.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby rhomboidal » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:01 am UTC

Darwin should've known having kids with beaks might result from marrying his cousin. X)

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby zanglebert » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:00 am UTC

Best one in a while, I thought.

Now, try the inspiration behind supersymmetry...

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby The Moomin » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:18 am UTC

I'd like to present this as an argument against stick figure Darwin.
I possibly don't pay enough attention to what's going on.
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Flumble » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:25 am UTC

Who gave a name to invented the theory that scientific discoveries become more legendary over time? Like how Hawking discovered black hole radiation after getting a tan from flying past a black hole during a weekly meeting in the Andromeda galaxy.


Wee Red Bird wrote:Nothing wrong with having a beak.

Not for you, perhaps, but for humans it's incredibly inconvenient to lack lips, because you can't speak in any mainstream language. (note that there was no standardised sign language back in the day)

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby xtifr » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:39 am UTC

I want a collection of porcelain atoms!
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:57 am UTC

xtifr wrote:I want a collection of porcelain atoms!

I have quite a collection of porcelain cups. Maybe if we accelerate them fast enough?
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby orthogon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:11 am UTC

Otto Hann may have pelted Lise Meitner with tennis balls, and later taken the credit and the Nobel for discovering nuclear fusion, but he did save her life. That's got to count for something.
(Confession: I hadn't heard of Meitner until today).
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby josh_barnes » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:23 am UTC

I can't understand why Randall of all people seems to have drawn a crescent moon with the crescent tilted upward. This implies that the Sun is also above the horizon, and a crescent Moon is almost impossible to see under such circumstances. This is the sort of mistake Gary Trudeau commonly makes, but I have to cut Trudeau some slack since he went to Yale.

And in a frame depicting Isaac Newton, no less. Auwe = Oy veh!

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Postby da Doctah » Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:16 am UTC

Friend: "Got the sniffles, Johann?"
Kepler: "Nah, just something that's going around."

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Monika » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:02 am UTC

Who are John and Mildred?

As I went to the Otto-Hahn-Gymnasium [school for grades 5 to 13], which stood directly next to the Lise-Meitner-Realschule [school for grades 5 to 10] I didn't consider most people might not have heard of her.
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby cellocgw » Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:10 am UTC

Flumble wrote:
Wee Red Bird wrote:Nothing wrong with having a beak.

Not for you, perhaps, but for humans it's incredibly inconvenient to lack lips, because you can't speak in any mainstream language. (note that there was no standardised sign language back in the day)


That'd be the least of my worries. Consider the difficulties trying to perform a variety of enjoyable conjugations with a person of the appropriate sex if you both have beaks. :oops:
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Flumble » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:34 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
Flumble wrote:
Wee Red Bird wrote:Nothing wrong with having a beak.

Not for you, perhaps, but for humans it's incredibly inconvenient to lack lips, because you can't speak in any mainstream language. (note that there was no standardised sign language back in the day)


That'd be the least of my worries. Consider the difficulties trying to perform a variety of enjoyable conjugations with a person of the appropriate sex if you both have beaks. :oops:

Isn't there a a sex act/method called "pecking"? (I know I've heard it somewhere, but forgot what the word was used for and UD doesn't help.)

Also, if you both have beaks, you're probably both offspring of Darwin, so (too) enjoyable conjugations are discouraged between to beakpeople.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby orthogon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:44 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:Isn't there a a sex act/method called "pecking"? (I know I've heard it somewhere, but forgot what the word was used for and UD doesn't help.)

If it ain't in Urban Dictionary, it ain't possible. (The converse is not necessarily true, of course).
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Reecer6 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:44 pm UTC

Oh man, this is the first xkcd in, like, ages, that made me literally laugh out loud. Nothing beats humor by ridiculous contrivances like these. Although, I did shiver a bit at the possibility of having my own collection of porcelain atoms smashed and dealing with a collection of porcelain atomic explosions.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Flumble » Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:53 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
Flumble wrote:Isn't there a a sex act/method called "pecking"? (I know I've heard it somewhere, but forgot what the word was used for and UD doesn't help.)

If it ain't in Urban Dictionary, it ain't possible. (The converse is not necessarily true, of course).

It's there alright, just not the unambiguous definition I was expecking and they're not at the top. (expeckt for "pecker" having "dick" at the tip top, which probably found its double meaning at the same time "passer" meant both things in Latin: long, long ago)

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby richP » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:43 pm UTC

Reecer6 wrote:Oh man, this is the first xkcd in, like, ages, that made me literally laugh out loud. Nothing beats humor by ridiculous contrivances like these. Although, I did shiver a bit at the possibility of having my own collection of porcelain atoms smashed and dealing with a collection of porcelain atomic explosions.


Oh boy, here we go again. Let's not spread more misinformation from the anti-porcelain energy crowd. :roll:

To sustain a porcelain atomic explosion you need a lot more than just some smashed porcelain, you need to have critical mass of porcelain (which varies with respect to density, temperature, and the presence of cute paintings on the surface of the porcelain). Adding glazing also helps concentrate the energy, reducing the mass required to go critical. The science is pretty simple, it's more of and Engineering problem. As an example, consider recent headlines about the Ugandan sabotage of the secret Belieze porcelain factories. Amazing that changing the RPMs of a potting wheel can mess things up so badly.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Whizbang » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:53 pm UTC

"I can't stand it any more! Every time you tear off a chunk of bread you end up taking most of the chewy middle, leaving me with nothing but crust. I want some of the chewy middle too!"

"Yeah, but what can be done?"

"I don't know, but if someone figures it out it will be the best thing ever."

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Monika » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:01 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:"I can't stand it any more! Every time you tear off a chunk of bread you end up taking most of the chewy middle, leaving me with nothing but crust. I want some of the chewy middle too!"

"Yeah, but what can be done?"

"I don't know, but if someone figures it out it will be the best thing ever."

Is that a reference to or quote from something?
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby orthogon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:03 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:"I can't stand it any more! Every time you tear off a chunk of bread you end up taking most of the chewy middle, leaving me with nothing but crust. I want some of the chewy middle too!"

"Yeah, but what can be done?"

"I don't know, but if someone figures it out it will be the best thing ever."

Hahaha, I get it. You're talking about the invention of the bread knife, aren't you?

Monika wrote:Is that a reference to or quote from something?

Yes. And it's actually quite tricky to Google for.
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Whizbang » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:07 pm UTC

I am referring to the expression "Best thing since sliced bread".

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby orthogon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:33 pm UTC

Since you mention it, does the preposition "since" represent an open or closed interval of time? In other words, does something have to exceed the goodness of sliced bread to qualify, or is it sufficient for it to out-merit all the things that came after the invention of sliced bread, whilst potentially being significantly less good than the reference foodstuff? (The importance of this question is becoming moot over time, since it's irrelevant as long as there exists any one thing invented in the period from 1929 to the present day that's better than sliced bread. I would propose the Internet, banoffee pie and bebop as candidates).

TODO: replace "the Internet" with something beginning with 'B'.
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Flumble » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:39 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:TODO: replace "the Internet" with something beginning with 'B'.

Are you joking or did you totally forget about the blogosphere? :lol:

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby SuicideJunkie » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:44 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:I am referring to the expression "Best thing since sliced bread".
I got it at least.

Since does not include the endpoint, at least in common usage.
EG: "I haven't eaten since breakfast"

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Zinho » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:54 pm UTC

Monika wrote:
Whizbang wrote:"I can't stand it any more! Every time you tear off a chunk of bread you end up taking most of the chewy middle, leaving me with nothing but crust. I want some of the chewy middle too!"

"Yeah, but what can be done?"

"I don't know, but if someone figures it out it will be the best thing ever."

Is that a reference to or quote from something?

USian colloquialism, "that's the greatest thing since sliced bread!"
Chart from Google nGram viewer.

Also, I agree that the "best [X] since [Y]" construction implies that Y is not better than X, just better than everything occurring between X and Y. There's an understanding that X is the historical record event/instance; if Y is the new historical record we'd just say that Y is the best ever, or best in recorded history.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Jorpho » Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:45 pm UTC

I am reminded of a blurb recounted at http://windell.oskay.net/humor/qqqfiles/quarks1.html , regarding Some Women's Contributions to Math:
Fraulein Gauss.. 'keep the strudel coming Berta, I just found a distribution...'
Fraulein Euler.. 'no more shnitzel for a while, I aready found a constant..'
MAdame Poincare..'I just made a conjecture..' I love it when you talk dirty..'
MAdame Lagrange..'mechanics, that's all you think about, and you still
can't fix the guillotine...'
Mlle Fermat.... 'cherie, what was so important about that particular piece
of paper...'
Mrs. Boole......' either she goes or I go... and that's not all...and not
Nora neither.'
' darling, you've given me a brilliant idea..'
Mrs Cantor......'I need a new set, all my other sets are full or fraying at
the edges.'
'precious, I'll get you the biggest set I can find...plus one'.


Anyway, I get the feeling someone out there has already cropped the third panel and is using it out of context to bolster Creationism.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby rmsgrey » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:35 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:Anyway, I get the feeling someone out there has already cropped the third panel and is using it out of context to bolster Creationism.


I wouldn't put any particular act of stupidity past all creationists (though some are quite intelligent and support creationism for their own reasons) but they might have more luck with panel 5...

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Kalium_Puceon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:59 pm UTC

Jorpho wrote:I am reminded of a blurb recounted at http://windell.oskay.net/humor/qqqfiles/quarks1.html , regarding Some Women's Contributions to Math:
Fraulein Gauss.. 'keep the strudel coming Berta, I just found a distribution...'
Fraulein Euler.. 'no more shnitzel for a while, I aready found a constant..'
MAdame Poincare..'I just made a conjecture..' I love it when you talk dirty..'
MAdame Lagrange..'mechanics, that's all you think about, and you still
can't fix the guillotine...'
Mlle Fermat.... 'cherie, what was so important about that particular piece
of paper...'
Mrs. Boole......' either she goes or I go... and that's not all...and not
Nora neither.'
' darling, you've given me a brilliant idea..'
Mrs Cantor......'I need a new set, all my other sets are full or fraying at
the edges.'
'precious, I'll get you the biggest set I can find...plus one'.



Anyway, I get the feeling someone out there has already cropped the third panel and is using it out of context to bolster Creationism.



Makes me think of this joke/poem:


REPLYING TO AN INVITATION TO A SCIENTIST'S BALL

Pierre and Marie Curie were radiating enthusiasm.

Einstein thought it would be relatively easy to attend.

Volta was electrified and Archimedes, buoyant at the thought.

Ampere was worried he wasn't up to current research.


Ohm resisted the idea at first.

Boyle said he was under too much pressure.

Edison thought it would be an illuminating experience.

Watt reckoned it would be a good way to let off steam.

Stephenson thought the whole idea was loco.

Wilbur Wright accepted, provided he and Orville could get a flight.

Dr Jekyll declined -- he hadn't been feeling himself lately.

Morse's reply: "I'll be there on the dot. Can't stop now must dash."

Heisenberg was uncertain if he could make it.

Hertz said in the future he planned to attend with greater frequency.

Henry begged off due to a low capacity for alcohol.

Audobon said he'd have to wing it.

Hawking said he'd try to string enough time together to make a spaaaaaace in his schedule.

Darwin said he'd have to see what evolved.

Schrodinger had to take his friend Catherine to the vet, or did he?

Mendel said he'd put some things together and see what came out.

Descartes said he'd think about it.

Newton was moved to attend.

Pavlov was drooling at the thought.

Gauss was asked to attend because of his magnetic personality.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby colonel_hack » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:37 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
Flumble wrote:Isn't there a a sex act/method called "pecking"? (I know I've heard it somewhere, but forgot what the word was used for and UD doesn't help.)

If it ain't in Urban Dictionary, it ain't possible. (The converse is not necessarily true, of course).

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby RogueCynic » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:15 am UTC

orthogon wrote:Otto Hann may have pelted Lise Meitner with tennis balls, and later taken the credit and the Nobel for discovering nuclear fusion, but he did save her life. That's got to count for something.
(Confession: I hadn't heard of Meitner until today).
Don't feel bad. I still haven't heard of her.

Kalium_Puceon wrote:
Jorpho wrote:
REPLYING TO AN INVITATION TO A SCIENTIST'S BALL

Pierre and Marie Curie were radiating enthusiasm.

Einstein thought it would be relatively easy to attend.

Volta was electrified and Archimedes, buoyant at the thought.

Ampere was worried he wasn't up to current research.


Ohm resisted the idea at first.

Boyle said he was under too much pressure.

Edison thought it would be an illuminating experience.

Watt reckoned it would be a good way to let off steam.

Stephenson thought the whole idea was loco.

Wilbur Wright accepted, provided he and Orville could get a flight.

Dr Jekyll declined -- he hadn't been feeling himself lately.

Morse's reply: "I'll be there on the dot. Can't stop now must dash."

Heisenberg was uncertain if he could make it.

Hertz said in the future he planned to attend with greater frequency.

Henry begged off due to a low capacity for alcohol.

Audobon said he'd have to wing it.

Hawking said he'd try to string enough time together to make a spaaaaaace in his schedule.

Darwin said he'd have to see what evolved.

Schrodinger had to take his friend Catherine to the vet, or did he?

Mendel said he'd put some things together and see what came out.

Descartes said he'd think about it.

Newton was moved to attend.

Pavlov was drooling at the thought.

Gauss was asked to attend because of his magnetic personality.

JP Clark & Siegfried the Deerslayer Wanna-Be
Henry Ford declined lacking motivation?
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Wee Red Bird » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:45 am UTC

Flumble wrote:
Wee Red Bird wrote:Nothing wrong with having a beak.

Not for you, perhaps, but for humans it's incredibly inconvenient to lack lips, because you can't speak in any mainstream language. (note that there was no standardised sign language back in the day)

Try telling that to a parrot.

cellocgw wrote:That'd be the least of my worries. Consider the difficulties trying to perform a variety of enjoyable conjugations with a person of the appropriate sex if you both have beaks. :oops:

Once you've gone beak, you'll never go back 8-)

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby orthogon » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:09 am UTC

What are the units of Moment of Inspiration? Idea-metres?
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Postby cellocgw » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:31 am UTC

RogueCynic wrote:Henry Ford declined lacking motorvation?


FTFY :roll:
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby cellocgw » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:32 am UTC

orthogon wrote:What are the units of Moment of Inspiration? Idea-metres?


If illustrated documents are any indication, the unit is lightbulbs :twisted:
Or I suppose in test, it's Eurekas.
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Flumble » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:57 am UTC

The better question is whether we can generate a huge moment of inspiration by sending geniuses to the outer reaches of the solar system. We've had more moments of inspration ever since we have astronauts/kosmonauts in orbit, which supports this theory.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Neil_Boekend » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:11 pm UTC

My theory is that Terry Pratchett was closer to reality than he thought:
Inspiration travels as particles through our universe. There is a field between human minds that captures these particles. After being captured in that field they travel randomly through that field until they encounter a human mind that can comprehend the inspiration.
Since the astronauts and kosmonauts expand the extreme distances between human minds they increase the size of the field. Thus the field receives more inspiration particles, similar to fishing with a bigger net.

Now the challenge for us is to create inspiration particles with just "BUY <our product>" in different languages in them so we can increase sales. :twisted:
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby The Moomin » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:19 pm UTC

colonel_hack wrote:
orthogon wrote:
Flumble wrote:Isn't there a a sex act/method called "pecking"? (I know I've heard it somewhere, but forgot what the word was used for and UD doesn't help.)

If it ain't in Urban Dictionary, it ain't possible. (The converse is not necessarily true, of course).

Sometimes you need a higher authority:
http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6c/09/14/6c09144b54c2091a7b3a689bca00928c.jpg


I was going to say that when you kiss someone on the cheek in greeting, that would be classed as a quick peck on the cheek.
I prefer the reference to Calvin and Hobbes though.
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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Mokurai » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:21 pm UTC

Richard Feynman:

Oh, come on, it's simple. Do I have to draw you a diagram?

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby orthogon » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:41 pm UTC

Mokurai wrote:Richard Feynman:

Oh, come on, it's simple. Do I have to draw you a diagram?

He was a pretty dynamic character. Some would even say electric.
xtifr wrote:... and orthogon merely sounds undecided.

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Re: 1584: Moments of Inspiration

Postby Sizik » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:36 am UTC

josh_barnes wrote:I can't understand why Randall of all people seems to have drawn a crescent moon with the crescent tilted upward. This implies that the Sun is also above the horizon, and a crescent Moon is almost impossible to see under such circumstances. This is the sort of mistake Gary Trudeau commonly makes, but I have to cut Trudeau some slack since he went to Yale.

And in a frame depicting Isaac Newton, no less. Auwe = Oy veh!


Obviously then, it's a gibbous moon.
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