1384: Krypton

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1384: Krypton

Postby Dr What » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:52 am UTC

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Title="Their Sun and gravity will make you, uh, something, I guess. Out of earshot from Earth, mostly."

So I guess Krypton explodes because of Clark's crying? Anyway, hopefully their Sun and gravity won't make you a Supercryingbaby.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Red Hal » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:55 am UTC

That baby is crying, let's kill it. Nope. Not a good one for me.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Mutex » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:56 am UTC

This is the first XKCD in a long time that I don't understand at all.

The baby is crying... so they blew up a planet?

... Nope ... need someone to fill in the blanks for me.

EDIT: Red Hal, I briefly considered whether they'd put the baby in the rocket but quickly decided that can't be it. It can't be... can it?

EDIT2: Oh, did they leave and go to the distant planet to get away from the baby, even though the planet they went to was about to explode?

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby HES » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:58 am UTC

I think they are in the rocket, to evade the baby.

Randall doesn't have an annoying baby in the house, does he?
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby tho74 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:04 am UTC

I don't like this comic, first in a long time. But I guess when having the weird sense of humor I appreciate on xkcd, you cannot prevent to trip the line between weird and distasteful once in a while... So, please keep up your weirdness anyway :-) Better to lose a good friend than to miss a bad joke ;-)

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby speising » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:08 am UTC

it gets more ironic when you consider that the couple are the Kents...

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby eviloatmeal » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:18 am UTC

HES wrote:I think they are in the rocket, to evade the baby.

Mutex wrote:This is the first XKCD in a long time that I don't understand at all.


No, it's a joke about the origin story of Superman. But instead of aliens sending a baby to Earth to get it away from exploding Krypton, humans send a baby to exploding Krypton to get it away from Earth.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby PayasYouDraw » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:20 am UTC

Like this one. There are plenty of times I'd like to send a crying baby to an exploding planet. :lol:
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Angua » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:20 am UTC

HES wrote:I think they are in the rocket, to evade the baby.

Randall doesn't have an annoying baby in the house, does he?

That doesn't make sense with the title text though. The title text heavily implies that the baby is going out of earshot of earth...

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby HES » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:24 am UTC

Right, missed the Krypton=Superman thing.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Envelope Generator » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:25 am UTC

A rare dud. Unless there's some real subtle twist to this one, it's a contender for the weakest XKCD strip since he stopped using graph paper.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby eviloatmeal » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:28 am UTC

Envelope Generator wrote:A rare dud.

It made me laugh. Maybe you've never been near a screeching baby.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Mutex » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:02 am UTC

HES wrote:Right, missed the Krypton=Superman thing.


I made that connection but didn't remember Superman's back story, so didn't get any further than that.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Philbert » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:18 am UTC

I have been near a cry-baby (mine), but still this strip puts me off on a deep instinctive level.

I immediately got that this was about Superman, I just don't think sending away babies to exploding stars is funny. It's also an impractical and expensive way of achieving what you want.
I hope I'm missing a subtler joke.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby bigglesworth » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:33 am UTC

I used to love dead baby jokes when I was 13.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby da Doctah » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:15 am UTC

Philbert wrote:I have been near a cry-baby (mine), but still this strip puts me off on a deep instinctive level.

I immediately got that this was about Superman, I just don't think sending away babies to exploding stars is funny. It's also an impractical and expensive way of achieving what you want.
I hope I'm missing a subtler joke.

How do you feel about putting a crying baby in a basket and setting it adrift among the bulrushes?

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:17 am UTC

I, like, thought this comic was super, man!

Don't let the haters drive you bat(s), man.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:19 am UTC

eviloatmeal wrote:
HES wrote:I think they are in the rocket, to evade the baby.

Mutex wrote:This is the first XKCD in a long time that I don't understand at all.


No, it's a joke about the origin story of Superman. But instead of aliens sending a baby to Earth to get it away from exploding Krypton, humans send a baby to exploding Krypton to get it away from Earth.

That's what I figured was happening. But it's not really amusing, just a well known situation reversed. *shrug*

Also, sending a rocket to an exploding planet seems like a ridiculous amount of work to get rid of a crying baby.
It's more surreal than funny.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby pkcommando » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:20 am UTC

I'm just put off by the fact that they could not only see the planet was becoming unstable, but had time to get a rocket there. Krypton is still ~27 lightyears away.

OTOH - i'd really like to have that telescope.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:26 am UTC

Also, what's the jaggedy thing in the penultimate panel? At first I thought that was Krypton, but now I guess the exploding planet is Krypton and the jaggedy thing is a kind of Kryptonite meteor? Or is it the thing that Superman was sent away in? Is that Superman coming the other way? (I'm trying to avoid googling the Superman mythology for the sake of my productivity).
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby speising » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:28 am UTC

the "jaggedy thing" is kal-el's escape pod.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Whizbang » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:43 pm UTC

I get the comic (what if someone had sent a baby to Krypton just as they were sending a baby to us!?), but I don't get the intent. Is it just to say babies are noisy/irritating sometimes and that, given the technology and proper psychological1 makeup, some parents would do this? 'Cuz that takes a special kind of crazy (and suspension of disbelief) to go that far when there are much easier ways to silence a baby. Even just dropping it off at the local police or fire department seems easier, and a lot less maniacal.

Sending a baby 27 LY away just for some quiet seems extreme.

Karma/Irony Ending: Kal-El lands in their backyard and super screams them to death.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:44 pm UTC

speising wrote:the "jaggedy thing" is kal-el's escape pod.

OK, so I was right: it is Superman coming the other way. (I must have remembered more than I realised). So they send a baby to the doomed Krypton and (ironically?) get another screaming vomit-monster by return (still screaming and vomiting in spite of the vast distance because of time dilation). Still not sure we've put our collective fingers on the actual joke, though...

Edit: Whizbang somewhat ninja'd me.
Edit2: Ok, so it's Earth's gravity, atmosphere and sun that gives Kryptonians their superpowers. In the title text, the couple on Earth are excusing their horrific act to themselves and to the victim by sort-of implying that the baby might gain some special powers or something on Krypton, although they clearly don't really believe this.
Edit3: Yeah, explainxkcd.com says this, better than I did.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Mutex » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:09 pm UTC

I guess it isn't technically a dead baby joke, since the planet is 27 light years away (and assuming the rocket can't go FTL) the "baby" will be a grown adult by the time they get there. And probably completely insane from spending their entire life alone in a spacecraft, hurtling towards a doomed planet. If they didn't die from lack of oxygen or food, or too much radiation exposure on the way.

Yeah, not the funniest comic.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Klear » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:14 pm UTC

speising wrote:the "jaggedy thing" is kal-el's escape pod.


I thought that was the best part of the comic - the way the two pods miss each other in flight.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby akf2000 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:15 pm UTC

WORST. XKCD. EVER.

I logged in for the first time in probably 3 years to share that.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby ASW » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:01 pm UTC

akf2000 wrote:WORST. XKCD. EVER.

I logged in for the first time in probably 3 years to share that.


Ya same here, As a father of 4 (adopted children) I am stretching to find alternative meanings:

1. Analogy to the ethical problems with abortion?
2. As the story of Kal-El's youth parallels a familiar biblical story (death or minute chance of survival regarding moses), perhaps this is just a poke at the rationality of parents?
3. Just dark humor that isn't my flavor, I think the punchline may have been better if the parent's didn't know Krypton was exploding, even then I believe the atmosphere would have killed the child.
4. Superman is really the story of a foreign exchange program gone bad?

I don't know...over 1384 comics and this one...way off mark for me.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby DennyMo » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:10 pm UTC

Every parent at some time or another has fantasized about swapping their kid for someone else's. Most of the time, we aren't serious about it, just momentarily frustrated by something. This is just an extreme version of that fantasy.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby speising » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:13 pm UTC

i guess there is such a thing as overthinking.
it's just a goofy comic, maybe started by a random thought "what if they send their baby away not to save it but because it's annoying". i'm pretty sure Randall does not habitually kill babies.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:21 pm UTC

DennyMo wrote:Every parent at some time or another has fantasized about swapping their kid for someone else's. Most of the time, we aren't serious about it, just momentarily frustrated by something. This is just an extreme version of that fantasy.

Yeah, this - if Randall really is a recent father, I can forgive everything (provided it's constrained to a comic fantasy; actual neonatal rocketry would be harder to accept). I don't have first-hand experience but I can see the effect a tearful 3- to 6-month-old child is having on my best friend, one of the kindest, loyalest people you could hope to meet. Society would be better off recognising that after six months with no sleep, all sorts of murderous thoughts start to be entertained. I'm sure the added guilt that "I shouldn't be having these feelings" doesn't help at all.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby brenok » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:26 pm UTC

speising wrote:i guess there is such a thing as overthinking.
it's just a goofy comic, maybe started by a random thought "what if they send their baby away not to save it but because it's annoying". i'm pretty sure Randall does not habitually kill babies.

This. Why can't people accept that Randall sometimes does simple jokes?

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby akf2000 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:31 pm UTC

It's a shit joke.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Whizbang » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:41 pm UTC

speising wrote:i guess there is such a thing as overthinking.
it's just a goofy comic, maybe started by a random thought "what if they send their baby away not to save it but because it's annoying".


Yeah, I know this is probably a case of over thinking for many of us who don't fully "get it", but at the same time, sending your baby across space to a planet you know will explode is, just... overpowering the punchline of two babies passing each other in the depths of space, or the punchline of "I'd do anything for some peace and quiet". It's just hard to get past without some mental gymnastics to justify it, even knowing it is just an off-hand joke.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:45 pm UTC

Also, I always presumed that the whole point of this forum was to provide a space in which each comic can be comprehensively overthought.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby cellocgw » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:02 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:Also, I always presumed that the whole point of this forum was to provide a space in which each comic can be comprehensively overthought.


I think you're overthinking the reasoning behind the forum :twisted:
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Vir4030 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:19 pm UTC

akf2000 wrote:It's a shit joke.


This.

I have never thought any of the xkcd comics were in poor taste, until this one. If the joke was funny, or even remotely made any sense, I could excuse it. But it's an absolute shit joke, and Randall should be ashamed of himself.

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:28 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
orthogon wrote:Also, I always presumed that the whole point of this forum was to provide a space in which each comic can be comprehensively overthought.


I think you're overthinking the reasoning behind the forum :twisted:

Ah, you mean I'm off-topic? Mea culpa. Maybe we need a meta- forum where we can discuss the fora themselves.
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby Whizbang » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:30 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:
cellocgw wrote:
orthogon wrote:Also, I always presumed that the whole point of this forum was to provide a space in which each comic can be comprehensively overthought.


I think you're overthinking the reasoning behind the forum :twisted:

Ah, you mean I'm off-topic? Mea culpa. Maybe we need a meta- forum where we can discuss the fora themselves.


Isn't that FaiD?

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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby orthogon » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:42 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:
orthogon wrote:
cellocgw wrote:
orthogon wrote:Also, I always presumed that the whole point of this forum was to provide a space in which each comic can be comprehensively overthought.


I think you're overthinking the reasoning behind the forum :twisted:

Ah, you mean I'm off-topic? Mea culpa. Maybe we need a meta- forum where we can discuss the fora themselves.


Isn't that FaiD?

My puny mind cannot even comprehend what that forum even is. WARNING TVTROPES! WARNING TVTROPES!
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Re: 1384: Krypton

Postby lordwoodsman » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:01 pm UTC

I'm choosing to believe that Panel #4 is 2 time periods. The baby arriving on Krypton in an Earth ship and leaving again in a Kryptonian ship. Not them passing each other in flight. They sent the child to Krypton, the family of El raised it for a short time and then sent it back to Earth before the planet was destroyed. Making Superman originally Human and getting his powers solely from his time on Krypton, not genetics... :)

It's either that or it's a satirical look at Humanity comparing our selfishness with the selfless act of Kal-El's Kryptonian parents.


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