The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

[MasterOfAll]

NeNeYe

Spoiler:

Not really a spoiler for the game, but I think this is exactly the sort of set-up where a mass-cop-claim would be useful. (The idea is that you get every player on D2 to claim a cop result, thus allowing the result of the real cop to be public knowledge without the cop automatically becoming the N2 target. And then you repeat for subsequent days until the cop is dead.) Of course, there is 50% chance that in this game the cop is naive, in which case it is mostly wasted effort. But if the cop reported a scum result, that would be solid.

Pro: allows the cop's results to be shared safe(ish)ly

Con: helps scum find the cop (scum knows that anyone who posts an inaccurate result is not the real cop)

[Sabrar]

Newbie New Year

Spoiler:

I've decided not to reveal myself here.

[jimbobmacdoodle]

Newbie New Year:

Spoiler:

Vanilla town here. Nothing more to see here.

[wam]

Newbie Mafia

Spoiler:

This is moving quickly. I am not actually going to give the setup yet, but will be entertained to see peoples speculation!

[Madge]

NNY

Spoiler:

Scum is:

Peaceful whale
Laserguy
cemper

mark my words!!!!!

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

I'm scum af, let's pwn some newbs

[BoomFrog]

Newbie New Year

Spoiler:

The biggest benifit of the power roles is they can confirm themselves late game. Using their powers successfully is a secondary benifit with the way things are set up this game. Tracker, watcher and doctor have only one useful target each night, at least the cop has 3 chances (if he's effective).

No one should claim, but I think LaserGuy is coming from a sincere place with his thinking. Hmm...

[Sabrar]

Newbie New Year

Spoiler:

My totally unfounded guess is that BoomFrog is the Tracker.

Edit: or not. His vote looks too serious.

[BoomFrog]

Newbie New Year

Spoiler:

cemper93 said:
EBWOP referring to the fact you're doing nothing but woofing.

I've provided more content then you have. I'm struggling to think of alternative explanations, but it seems to me that you are simply not caring about substance and only looking at things superficially. Major scum points.

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

Why is BoomFrog doing this? It's just an invitation to be policy lynched.

[Madge]

NNY

Spoiler:

Boomfrog is clearly town. I love what he's doing purely because it's hilarious and I can understand what he's saying most of the time (i don't know how exactly).

Aaand Vicarin's comment is why I try not to include spoilers in game titles when I mod! Plus I like to think of awful puns that then get to stay in the "recent posts" section for years

[Madge]

Not to look too far ahead, but I figure it doesn't hurt to drop hints! - is there any new games planned? If people are up for it I'd love to play in a dethy if anyone feels like modding one. Dethys are such fun!! None of that stupid D1 stuff just pure unadulterated logic. I would hate to play in one as scum though.

[Suzaku]

I’m actually thinking I might run something.
I was wondering about doing something similar to Snark’s PyP Pirates of the Caribbean game from a few years back.
Any interest?

I’d be happy running a dethy as well if people would prefer that.

[wam]

I still have the avatar !

[Suzaku]

Me too, hidden around on my home PC somewhere.
I'd forgotten that that was when you started using that one, though.

[BoomFrog]

I was considering running a PYP Rick and Morty game. You can choose to be a Rick, and you can invent three powers for yourself before the game starts, but you don't get to know your alignment before inventing.

Or you can be a Morty and the mod gives you a balanced but noob friendly role.

I'm not sure if I have the time to mod that complicated of a game though.

[jimbobmacdoodle]

I was going to get through the first Day or two of the current game, and then start prepping my planned WoT3 game, but I'd be happy for that to not be next up.

[wam]

Newbie new year @ boomfrog he is the only active player allowed to read.

Spoiler:

I imagine you chuckle every time you type another woof!

[Sabrar]

Newbie New Year

Spoiler:

I wouldn't mind seeing LaserGuy being lynched. Calling me active lurking is over the top.

Edit: and I just realized that BoomFrog is really the Tracker and I can't even indicate that I know.

[BoomFrog]

Newbie new year @ boomfrog he is the only active player allowed to read.

Spoiler:

I imagine you chuckle every time you type another woof!

Newbie New Year

Spoiler:

My wife pointed out that I had a big ear to ear grin on my face after every time I posted. I really wanted to have gone though the entire game only posting woof, while still being an effective player,
but people started asking complicated questions.

[Madge]

NNY

Spoiler:

Looks like I'm vanilla town! So I don't have any setup information to sprinkle into my post! So let's see what legiimate D1 content from Madge looks like

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

I really wish I had a nefarious plan, but I just suck at scumming. Anyway, I feel like this game is super hard for scum. Town has four innocent children until MYLO, and MYLO is on D4 the earliest. Plus they might have a cop too, which would suck super hard for the reasons that I mathed out.

[Peaceful Whale]

NNY

Spoiler:

I thought this game was supposed to be slow... not so much. Also:
8?3 :3?3”903; - ,9”” ,9;3
95/ @85534”6 ‘e 5608!) 9!3 ‘6 0)93! 2)3’ 85/ 8! !7’!34/
Yep, it’s a code... good luck!
85/ /70034 !-; -/ !7’?34/ :9’5 ‘-5,) 70 285$ “35534/
It’s not perfect yet, I’ll write code to actually do it for me later... (it’s also probably unsolvable until I do so, sorry about that)
Sorry scum buddies, I think I’m going to fail.

[bessie]

Newbie New Year Mafia

Spoiler:

Oh crap, did I really forget to make a Gojoe post already?

And, yep, business as usual. No freezeblade streak for me.

[LaserGuy]

NNY:

Spoiler:

I'm VT. I am deliberately playing against my meta this game though.

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

This game seems real fucking lopsided. With the PRs, town has effectively 4 Innocent Children. This means that there's only 12-3-4=5 players we can push a lynch on at all, and we don't even know who they are. Oh, and town potentially has a cop too that will almost certainly get a guilty result because this game will be super long because town has 3 mislynches before MYLO plus an extra night from NL, and even if they don't have a cop, they'll still get an investigative role/doctor pair.

I'm pondering if the best strategy might be to get all the PRs to claim, somehow. If they do, then at least we will be able to pick off that goddamn watcher.

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

Sorry, I just realized that I have repeated myself.

[wam]

Newbie new year (No active players may read but cemper should read post game)

Spoiler:

The analysis above is wrong, its two mislynches to MYLO (9/3, 7/3, 5/3). Also the 4 innocent child point, if the PR claim they run the risk of being NK'd. The odds as well should also favour scum getting at least 1 in the first two nights.

For those spectating the cop is naive the doctor effective, the watcher is naive the tracker is effective. IMOP this is the best setup for scum. Picking the player carrying out the NK is harder and if they do get it right, scum can just claim cop and then its counter claim time. Also I would be very tempted as scum to not NK and ruin towns results and plans.

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

This whole "PeacefulWhale faked to sleep and was actually waiting for scum chat" thing is annoying me pretty hard, for two reasons: 1. they're fucking wrong, and 2. this is like voting the guy whose chair creaked at night in meatworld mafia.

I ponder if I should voice some similar concerns in-thread and buddy somitomi a little harder than I already am doing. Hey, I think I'll do that.

Also really hoping wam's post does not contain a strategy for scum that I should see, but don't. That would be rather embarassing.

[Peaceful Whale]

NNY

Spoiler:

Pretty sure Vicarin is our doctor...
He may be dieing tonight...

He’s mentioned doctor so many times, the possibility of it, what they should do, etc.

Also, should the plan be that if someone hits L-2 and they're a PR, they claim ASAP? Or at some other margin?

I could be wrong.

[bessie]

Newbie New Year Mafia

Spoiler:

Ok, I’ve officially hit a wall and lost my enthusiasm for this game.

Meow...I’m not going to lie, I didn’t in the first place. In all my games, even when I’m town, I’ve been seen as pretty scummy. Only my noobyness got me through some of them. I’ve done stuff like this before. I sometimes find a reads list and copy it, but rearrange what I don’t agree with to fit my needs. I’ve kinda done the same thing here, but more extreme. I’ve been copying people like Bessie, she has already pointed out where. I’m sorry Bessie that your happened to be right about me. : cry : I don’t trust myself to be towny, so I try and follow people who I believe are town (pr at least doing a better job than I am).
This way I don’t screw up, get myself killed, or distract from actual scum. (I’ve mentioned how being towny is important for townies to do).
I’ll stop now, seeing as it’s not working at all, and try and be myself... even though no one likes it.

It’s going to be tough finding the motivation to finish up this day. Maybe PW is actually a brilliant manipulator and I’m being worked over but I’m still at fault for being such a fucking woof woof. When I was mentoring LaserGuy in Bin Chicken, I made a list of some of the times I had to apologize to other players in game threads for being a jerk (um, yeah).

Djehutynakht in Vanillafia, for hammering on him too hard.
Vytron in Draculafia, because he thought I was harassing Madge.
Madge in Draculafia, in case Vytron was right.
Carlington in Dollhouse, because he interpreted something in my content as me calling him stupid.
A blanket apology in Dollhouse to anyone else I may have annoyed.
Wheel of Time 2, no links, there were a lot of them!

Partial list, and doesn’t even include the times I apologized by pm.

[Madge]

NNY

Spoiler:

so this might seal my fate but i just softclaimed a PR pretty hard I think, if it moves the noose away from me then excelelnt, if it doesn't then when I claim VT before bed it might tighten the noose because softclaiming a PR and then not being a PR is kind of scummy?

my goal is to save myself and HOPEFULLY draw the mafia kill. I think my behaviour is consistent with a PR so this might work for me, and will at least mean I've done my job as VT (well, half of it.... well, a third of it: we have three jobs as VT that are, in order: a) don't be lynched (FAIL), b) find scum (FAIL), c) get scum to kill you(AIMING FOR THIS GUYS))

[Madge]

NNY

(meta, please people read after the game is over)

Spoiler:

I get the feeling people don't like me playing the way I play. This is how I play, and I'm worried I'm making the game worse for everyone. My rational brain knows that it can be fun to have some variety, but my anxious brain thinks that because I don't play the way people prefer, I'm ruining everyone's fun.

I appreciate that Sabrar seems to get me, thanks!

[wam]

NNY

(meta, please people read after the game is over)

Spoiler:

I get the feeling people don't like me playing the way I play. This is how I play, and I'm worried I'm making the game worse for everyone. My rational brain knows that it can be fun to have some variety, but my anxious brain thinks that because I don't play the way people prefer, I'm ruining everyone's fun.

I appreciate that Sabrar seems to get me, thanks!

NNY (only Madge, no other active players may read)

Spoiler:

I have no issues with your style. As someone who also is viewed as scummy when town I share the frustration. But as you said it's meant to be fun so do what is fun for you

[BoomFrog]

NNY

Spoiler:

Damn. I was just waiting for Madges response to my question and then was going to seriously consider redirecting the wagon. Oh well.

75% Madge is watcher, 15% cop 10% tracker

From the fact that wam replied I'm guessing Madge is fed up with the game, especially attacking people for RL time issues. I think there's a bit of misunderstanding going on since Bessie is only attacking PW for saying specifically he's sleeping, when he was actually in school. I agree no one should have to account for their RL time, but lying is a reasonable thing to point out, even if it's lying about RL.

[Madge]

NNY@wam

Spoiler:

Wam: thanks! I appreciate that. <3

So my softclaim was so hard that it was apparently a non-specific PR claim. Tossing up between backing down and saying "I didn't say that" or just letting it hang.

I think I'll let it hang; it's a good thing for town to keep out there. I think I'm going to be voted out sooner rather than later anyway and I don't think the gambit will make a difference one way or the other. I think when my number's up it's up. And the only way scum will kill me is if they t hink I'm a PR.

EDIT: changed my mind, town might ask me to claim today anyway. better to be honest. town shouldn't lie.

[wam]

Nny @ Madge

Spoiler:

No worries. Also the sarcastic hourly updates are making me laugh.

[cemper93]

NNY

Spoiler:

With BF unvoting Madge and jumping on my flicky train, I now get to hope that Madge gets lynched today. That would make BF look real bad tomorrow, given that he pushed Madge hard before.

Hey, maybe we'll win this game after all. All it needs is an unlucky watcher and an unlucky cop!

[freezeblade]

I find it hilarious that my screen name pops up pretty often in this thread, far more than any other location on a sub-fora. My streak seems to be a tad famous around these parts. I'm tempted to join another game, it couldn't be possible that I'd be scum again could it...

[Madge]

please do I miss you!!!