First a few responses
Sabrar wrote:I don't really understand your first point. So there is something that I would have done both as Townie and as Scum and because of that you find me scummy? Is that really your point?
IIRC, the point I was trying to make is that I don't necessarily see the recruiting groups as scummy / contrary to our win condition, so your view to lynch him stood out to me from that perspective. It makes sense IF the recruiter prevents town from winning, but it also makes sense if the recruiter is like a quasi-mason in group, in which case black ajah would definitely want him dead. So that was mostly an observation that I could see you posting it from either angle.
Gopher of Pern wrote:Possible scum teams:
bessie - matt96. Likely. Jude and matt save bessie from a D1 lynching. Lay low during D2 because of all the Elaida business.
Disagree. Scum cannot be so bad as to have both people save bessie last minute. Too much attention in my opinion.
mpolo wrote:I would not object to our vig killing SirGabriel to reduce the probability that I have to worry about getting rid of a weak leader in the future.
I still don't understand where we decided that these recruits are a bigger threat than black ajah. We're just cleaning house for them as far as I see it, for no real good reason.
matt96 wrote:I suppose the idea was that the Black ajah was intended to try to avoid getting exposed while letting the siuan and elaida's factional conflict weaken town.
Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking.
bessie wrote:But I don't think he's [dimochka] a night kill candidate anyway. He claimed his color and power with no counterclaims. If he's telling the truth, he's vanilla.
Yes, I'm vanilla.
And some reads (not in any particular order)
- Madge: I don't think she fully caught up on flavor and realized to claim a different recruiting faction that doesn't exist. So as far as I'm concerned she's in Siuan. From my point of view I definitely don't want the recruiting factions to kill one another because that goes against my current wincon of having a strong leader in place.
SirG: similar to madge. really doubt he's lying
Matt: I may be reading into it but a double vote in scum's hands is incredibly strong. I know that his content has been lacking but I don't think black ajah would have that (plus a kill and/or whatever else). With that being said I want to see that post he planned to put together.
Sabrar: I mentioned the couple of things that look off to me. Otherwise it's a lot of back and forth arguing with GoP which I didn't find that helpful. So either they're both town, or one is scum trying to waste our time and look active (not that either of them needs help looking active after all that)
GoP: Same as above. If I had to pick one of them, I'd have sabrar as the more scummy one, but I may be biased from D1/D2 so I'm reviewing.
*sidenote - I do not believe that both gop and sabrar are scum together.
Bessie: As I mentioned before, her content improved, and while I don't agree with everything, I actually think that she and I are likely in the same situation. But this is gut feeling and I'll have to come back to this.
Mpolo: based on the note situation, he's likely town.
Carlington: all we have is a rolecop claim, which could swing either way on the town-scum scale. Not very convincing to be honest (of townieness; I can believe the power)
I'd be most comfortable with a carlington lynch at this point, but i should have more time to review in detail tomorrow before the deadline. If anything here doesn't make sense, ask away.
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