Dollhouse Mafia - Game Over
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
Alright, so, it is me, Bessie, emlightened and Madge.
Bessie, I'm like 99% sure you are town. So if you are in fact the SK, congratulations.
Bessie, there is no way for you to win here. But you are the kingmaker. Me and my mafia partner can stop a lynch today, because ties result in a NL. So I guess I am going to ask you to vote for Madge, because I feel that I have put more of an effort into convincing people that I am town than diMadgeka did.
N1 we tried to kill diMadgeka. It failed. Now emlightened's power is to get through a single roleblock. Given that Carlington claimed to have roleblocked you, cf was cop, adnap used a cop (it seems unlikely she could use two powers a night), and jimbob was a watcher, this makes it impossible that she was double roleblocked (and yeah, my power is to be invisible to actions but we thought that hers was more useful). Hence, diMadgeka is bulletproof and is the serial killer.
The question is whether or not she is permanently bulletproof. If she is not, then we win, because you can bet that we are going to try to kill her again tonight. If she is, then you are kingmaker, because if you don't vote for her we NL tonight, we try to kill diMadgeka and fail, she kills one of us, and I guess we have this conversation again tomorrow. Either way you lose, because as the only town left you can no longer control the lynch.
I would prefer to just get it over with without waiting for another week for the deadline to hit and us to NL.
Vote: Madge
Oh, so if you are the SK, then you also want to lynch diMadgeka, because you can't win with a bulletproof townie out there. In which case, it is a draw, but we have to wait a week or whatever. Because in that case, the kills are resolved simultaneously (we asked the mod at some point) and so everyone dies (unless you are also bulletproof, but I can live with losing in that case).
Madge, want to try to claim not to be Alpha?
Bessie, I'm like 99% sure you are town. So if you are in fact the SK, congratulations.
Bessie, there is no way for you to win here. But you are the kingmaker. Me and my mafia partner can stop a lynch today, because ties result in a NL. So I guess I am going to ask you to vote for Madge, because I feel that I have put more of an effort into convincing people that I am town than diMadgeka did.
N1 we tried to kill diMadgeka. It failed. Now emlightened's power is to get through a single roleblock. Given that Carlington claimed to have roleblocked you, cf was cop, adnap used a cop (it seems unlikely she could use two powers a night), and jimbob was a watcher, this makes it impossible that she was double roleblocked (and yeah, my power is to be invisible to actions but we thought that hers was more useful). Hence, diMadgeka is bulletproof and is the serial killer.
The question is whether or not she is permanently bulletproof. If she is not, then we win, because you can bet that we are going to try to kill her again tonight. If she is, then you are kingmaker, because if you don't vote for her we NL tonight, we try to kill diMadgeka and fail, she kills one of us, and I guess we have this conversation again tomorrow. Either way you lose, because as the only town left you can no longer control the lynch.
I would prefer to just get it over with without waiting for another week for the deadline to hit and us to NL.
Vote: Madge
Oh, so if you are the SK, then you also want to lynch diMadgeka, because you can't win with a bulletproof townie out there. In which case, it is a draw, but we have to wait a week or whatever. Because in that case, the kills are resolved simultaneously (we asked the mod at some point) and so everyone dies (unless you are also bulletproof, but I can live with losing in that case).
Madge, want to try to claim not to be Alpha?
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Well, this is complicated.
Given the circumstances I'm not sure if I trust emlightened's maths. Let's look at it. We have at least two enemy factions (OK - if we're looking at every possibility, maybe scum has a bonus one-shot kill so they can do two kills in a night, but it's simpler to assume we've got at least one SK).
So with 4 players we have, at best, 2/1/1.
Emlightened - why didn't you claim you were vanilla/backup when dim made a similar claim about "our" role? That makes me a little suspicious of your claim (but only a tiny bit), though I want to see what the others come up with so we can be sure there are actually scum fake claims in there, since we could be in a 2SK situation.
Anyway. Maths.
2/1/1: (Two SK situation)
Lynch town -> 1/1/1 -> mafia and SK kill; we either end up with 1 town and 1 SK tomorrow (SK wins), one SK kills town and one SK kills SK and SK wins, or the SKs kill each other and town wins (so tiny chance of town win here)
Lynch SK -> 2/1 -> 1/1 tomorrow, SK wins
No lynch ->
1/1/1 (Both SKs kill the same townie) -> town loses, can play kingmaker and choose which SK wins
0/1/1 (both SKs kill a townie) -> absolute draw
2/0/0 (SKs annhilate each other) -> town win
1/1/0 (one SK kills the other, one kills town) -> SK win
1/2/1: (two mafia + SK situation)
Lynch town -> 0/2/1 -> mafia wins
Lynch mafia -> 1/1/1 -> refer above (SK wins or town wins)
No lynch ->
0/1/1 -> absolute draw
0/2/1 -> mafia win
0/2/0 -> mafia win
1/1/0 -> mafia win
2/2: (two mafia, no SK [included for completeness, very unlikely IMO])
Mafia has already won so.... this can't actually be possible
3/1: (we only ever had an SK, who got a double kill somehow last night [even more unlikely])
We're at MYLO, no lynch would be advisable
So, the following follows:
- mafia and SK cannot claim, because if their identity is known by the opposing scumgroup it will seal their fate, but if town knows, then no big deal
- town also needs to stay claiming town because if they're identified as confirmed town, town loses
- so mafia and SK will all need to try to blend in with the last townie, which FMPOV explains emlightened's post
- I think we're probably at 1/2/1, so barring some sort of miracle (or a two SK setup), it's unwinnable
- If we have two SKs and they play optimally, town wins because they kill each other, since killing the other SK is the only way for an SK to win (I find this amusing)
- I am left with a tracker power now, and given there's very few situations in which anyone's alive to benefit tomorrow I'm not sure it's useful.
So it looks like I need to lynch a mafia member today, since if I lynch the SK I lose, and if I get lynched I lose, too.
So, here's my proposal:
Mafia, let one of your members claim their true mafia form. The other mafia member should join in the lynch posing as town. Then there's a lovely guessing game involving who is town, and who is pretending to be town so as not to look like the SK. If both sides guess right... well, then I win. So really you'd be gambling on your opponent guessing wrong, which I think is really a very awesome way for a game to end.
I don't think there's a better chance of a town win, but if you have any ideas feel free to share them and we can debate their merits.
Ninja: ok, well, mafia has come out and claimed, but it looks like not to my proposal that actually gives town a chance of winning. whether I'm town or not, whoever IS town, they benefit from my proposal.
Given the circumstances I'm not sure if I trust emlightened's maths. Let's look at it. We have at least two enemy factions (OK - if we're looking at every possibility, maybe scum has a bonus one-shot kill so they can do two kills in a night, but it's simpler to assume we've got at least one SK).
So with 4 players we have, at best, 2/1/1.
Emlightened - why didn't you claim you were vanilla/backup when dim made a similar claim about "our" role? That makes me a little suspicious of your claim (but only a tiny bit), though I want to see what the others come up with so we can be sure there are actually scum fake claims in there, since we could be in a 2SK situation.
Anyway. Maths.
2/1/1: (Two SK situation)
Lynch town -> 1/1/1 -> mafia and SK kill; we either end up with 1 town and 1 SK tomorrow (SK wins), one SK kills town and one SK kills SK and SK wins, or the SKs kill each other and town wins (so tiny chance of town win here)
Lynch SK -> 2/1 -> 1/1 tomorrow, SK wins
No lynch ->
1/1/1 (Both SKs kill the same townie) -> town loses, can play kingmaker and choose which SK wins
0/1/1 (both SKs kill a townie) -> absolute draw
2/0/0 (SKs annhilate each other) -> town win
1/1/0 (one SK kills the other, one kills town) -> SK win
1/2/1: (two mafia + SK situation)
Lynch town -> 0/2/1 -> mafia wins
Lynch mafia -> 1/1/1 -> refer above (SK wins or town wins)
No lynch ->
0/1/1 -> absolute draw
0/2/1 -> mafia win
0/2/0 -> mafia win
1/1/0 -> mafia win
2/2: (two mafia, no SK [included for completeness, very unlikely IMO])
Mafia has already won so.... this can't actually be possible
3/1: (we only ever had an SK, who got a double kill somehow last night [even more unlikely])
We're at MYLO, no lynch would be advisable
So, the following follows:
- mafia and SK cannot claim, because if their identity is known by the opposing scumgroup it will seal their fate, but if town knows, then no big deal
- town also needs to stay claiming town because if they're identified as confirmed town, town loses
- so mafia and SK will all need to try to blend in with the last townie, which FMPOV explains emlightened's post
- I think we're probably at 1/2/1, so barring some sort of miracle (or a two SK setup), it's unwinnable
- If we have two SKs and they play optimally, town wins because they kill each other, since killing the other SK is the only way for an SK to win (I find this amusing)
- I am left with a tracker power now, and given there's very few situations in which anyone's alive to benefit tomorrow I'm not sure it's useful.
So it looks like I need to lynch a mafia member today, since if I lynch the SK I lose, and if I get lynched I lose, too.
So, here's my proposal:
Mafia, let one of your members claim their true mafia form. The other mafia member should join in the lynch posing as town. Then there's a lovely guessing game involving who is town, and who is pretending to be town so as not to look like the SK. If both sides guess right... well, then I win. So really you'd be gambling on your opponent guessing wrong, which I think is really a very awesome way for a game to end.
I don't think there's a better chance of a town win, but if you have any ideas feel free to share them and we can debate their merits.
Ninja: ok, well, mafia has come out and claimed, but it looks like not to my proposal that actually gives town a chance of winning. whether I'm town or not, whoever IS town, they benefit from my proposal.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
vote: diemo
Since, you know, claimed mafia is mafia.
I can confirm I have an additional bulletproofness I didn't mention in my claim before, so scummy scum is scum.
Since, you know, claimed mafia is mafia.
I can confirm I have an additional bulletproofness I didn't mention in my claim before, so scummy scum is scum.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
Town is dead. We are at 1/2/1, which means that it is literally impossible for town to win now.
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This kinda reminds me of Chairman Maofia, which was also me against Madge trying to convince someone else to vote
. Man, I enjoyed that game.
Also, I feel like I have used diMadgeka before, did you replace dimochka in another game at some stage, Madge?

Also, I feel like I have used diMadgeka before, did you replace dimochka in another game at some stage, Madge?
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
Madge wrote: whoever IS town, they benefit from my proposal.
Except it doesn't work, as the two mafia can just force a No Lynch, and a mafia lynch is impossible to force unless one mafia votes for the other, which is obviously counterproductive.
Ninja'd x3. Doesn't really matter.
And yes, if Diemo is correct about madge being bulletproof, bessie is kingmaker.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
I've been doing a lot of replacing lately so it's likely. (I notice so many games end up wanting replacements that if I'm not super 100% MUST PLAY GAME levels of eager to play a game I just sign up as a replacement instead)
Mafia can force a no lynch, but town can vote to kingmake the SK if they don't, in a kind of blackmail type situation.
Mafia can force a no lynch, but town can vote to kingmake the SK if they don't, in a kind of blackmail type situation.
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Vote for Madge, em.
I have to go to sleep now
. Stupid job! I guess we are just waiting on Bessie anyway.
Hey, Bessie, have I mentioned how nice you are? And that you're pretty?
ninja: Oh yeah, town is totally kingmaker here.
I have to go to sleep now

Hey, Bessie, have I mentioned how nice you are? And that you're pretty?

ninja: Oh yeah, town is totally kingmaker here.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
(but she might think that you and madge are doing some weird ploy, and not that I'm mafia, which is blatantly obvious)
Vote: Madge
And if bessie does decide to go with Madge, we just have to wait until Monday for the results. See you all then, or this morning, if bessie does decide to vote against Madge.
Vote: Madge
And if bessie does decide to go with Madge, we just have to wait until Monday for the results. See you all then, or this morning, if bessie does decide to vote against Madge.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
OK, I just got home. I didn’t have time to check the thread this morning (RL issues) because I was called in early to work, and our garage door was stuck, an hour delay there. I missed a meeting with our most important customer and also had to cover for two guys who didn’t show up today (I've got to get the hell out of there). When I got home my husband was so sick he can’t get out of bed and he was supposed to play a gig tonight.
Meh, another typical day. I wonder what’s happening with Dollhouse…
Oh fucking hell, now I’m officially having a very bad day.
But seriously, I’m not trying to stall, I'm just exhausted. Give me a few hours to read the thread; I just did a quick skim.
Meh, another typical day. I wonder what’s happening with Dollhouse…
Oh fucking hell, now I’m officially having a very bad day.
But seriously, I’m not trying to stall, I'm just exhausted. Give me a few hours to read the thread; I just did a quick skim.
Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
Diemo wrote:I would prefer to just get it over with without waiting for another week for the deadline to hit and us to NL.
To address this issue, if you're absolutely confident that you don't want to change your vote and that you don't want to discuss things any further then you may post a secondary vote to end the day early (please indicate that it's separate from your normal vote). If all players do so then I won't wait for the deadline to arrive.
Please send me your night actions (if you have any) before choosing to end the day early!
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All right, let’s see what we have.
I’ll get this one out of the way right now. I think I agree with you, but let me make sure.
Hmm, Diemo is not telling the complete truth. But I still can't see any help in this for town.
Madge, you can quit pretending to be the town tracker. Diemo and emlightened are claimed mafia. I know you are the serial killer. Not that it makes any difference which of the two of us is town. They’re going to vote together.
OK, I accept that I can’t win. But I feel that I owe it to town not to give up without a fight. So I think that I should sit back and watch you kill each other. I will also have one more day of futile hope that somehow you will all die overnight and I will be last man standing on D4 (no, I know it’s not going to happen but let me dream a little, I’ve had a rough RL day).
I agree that it is a waste of time to drag this out until Monday. We’re going to No Lynch. Let’s get it over with. Submit your night actions and we can vote No Lynch.
Ninja’d by Sabrar while I was writing this out. So vote no lynch or vote to end the day.
Diemo wrote:Bessie, there is no way for you to win here.
I’ll get this one out of the way right now. I think I agree with you, but let me make sure.
Diemo wrote:N1 we tried to kill diMadgeka. It failed. Now emlightened's power is to get through a single roleblock. Given that Carlington claimed to have roleblocked you, cf was cop, adnap used a cop (it seems unlikely she could use two powers a night), and jimbob was a watcher, this makes it impossible that she was double roleblocked (and yeah, my power is to be invisible to actions but we thought that hers was more useful). Hence, diMadgeka is bulletproof and is the serial killer.
Hmm, Diemo is not telling the complete truth. But I still can't see any help in this for town.
Madge wrote:- I am left with a tracker power now, and given there's very few situations in which anyone's alive to benefit tomorrow I'm not sure it's useful.
So it looks like I need to lynch a mafia member today, since if I lynch the SK I lose, and if I get lynched I lose, too.
Madge, you can quit pretending to be the town tracker. Diemo and emlightened are claimed mafia. I know you are the serial killer. Not that it makes any difference which of the two of us is town. They’re going to vote together.
Diemo wrote:The question is whether or not she is permanently bulletproof. If she is not, then we win, because you can bet that we are going to try to kill her again tonight. If she is, then you are kingmaker, because if you don't vote for her we NL tonight, we try to kill diMadgeka and fail, she kills one of us, and I guess we have this conversation again tomorrow. Either way you lose, because as the only town left you can no longer control the lynch.
OK, I accept that I can’t win. But I feel that I owe it to town not to give up without a fight. So I think that I should sit back and watch you kill each other. I will also have one more day of futile hope that somehow you will all die overnight and I will be last man standing on D4 (no, I know it’s not going to happen but let me dream a little, I’ve had a rough RL day).
Diemo wrote:I would prefer to just get it over with without waiting for another week for the deadline to hit and us to NL.
I agree that it is a waste of time to drag this out until Monday. We’re going to No Lynch. Let’s get it over with. Submit your night actions and we can vote No Lynch.
Ninja’d by Sabrar while I was writing this out. So vote no lynch or vote to end the day.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
I'm fine with that.
Vote to end day early
Nah, the only help that town could have had would have been deciding who they watch die, instead of letting it decide itself. There was no possible way for town to win that I know of.
Vote to end day early
bessie wrote:Diemo wrote:N1 we tried to kill diMadgeka. It failed. Now emlightened's power is to get through a single roleblock. Given that Carlington claimed to have roleblocked you, cf was cop, adnap used a cop (it seems unlikely she could use two powers a night), and jimbob was a watcher, this makes it impossible that she was double roleblocked (and yeah, my power is to be invisible to actions but we thought that hers was more useful). Hence, diMadgeka is bulletproof and is the serial killer.
Hmm, Diemo is not telling the complete truth. But I still can't see any help in this for town.
Nah, the only help that town could have had would have been deciding who they watch die, instead of letting it decide itself. There was no possible way for town to win that I know of.
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"Therefore it is in the interests not only of public safety but also public sanity if the buttered toast on cats idea is scrapped, to be replaced by a monorail powered by cats smeared with chicken tikka masala floating above a rail made from white shag pile carpet."
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
Vote to end day as soon as Bessie votes
Well, in that my power is actually to be unwatchable/untrackable/godfather, sure.
bessie wrote:Diemo wrote:N1 we tried to kill diMadgeka. It failed. Now emlightened's power is to get through a single roleblock. Given that Carlington claimed to have roleblocked you, cf was cop, adnap used a cop (it seems unlikely she could use two powers a night), and jimbob was a watcher, this makes it impossible that she was double roleblocked (and yeah, my power is to be invisible to actions but we thought that hers was more useful). Hence, diMadgeka is bulletproof and is the serial killer.
Hmm, Diemo is not telling the complete truth. But I still can't see any help in this for town.
Well, in that my power is actually to be unwatchable/untrackable/godfather, sure.
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Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
Vote: Diemo
Vote to end the day early if Madge agrees.
Vote to end the day early if Madge agrees.
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Votals:
Diemo - 2 (Madge, bessie)
Madge - 2 (Diemo, emlightened)
Tied votals result in No Lynch.
End the day early - 3 (bessie, Diemo, emlightened)
Please send me your night-actions (if you have any) before voting to end the day!
Diemo - 2 (Madge, bessie)
Madge - 2 (Diemo, emlightened)
Tied votals result in No Lynch.
End the day early - 3 (bessie, Diemo, emlightened)
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end day early
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Night has fallen.
Votals:
Diemo - 2 (Madge, bessie)
Madge - 2 (Diemo, emlightened)
Please don't post in the thread until Day 4 begins.
Votals:
Diemo - 2 (Madge, bessie)
Madge - 2 (Diemo, emlightened)
Please don't post in the thread until Day 4 begins.
Re: Dollhouse Mafia - Day 3 - Chaos
For a little while they kept pretending that they were still on her side, but Echo knew that she couldn't trust any of them. Finally, after some analysis her former handler decided that it was pointless to argue anymore and announced his masterplan, sure in the knowledge that it was fool-proof. Of course as a wise man (sadly deceased) once said: "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." Would this come back to haunt him?
They argued a bit but neither side had the numerical advantage so they called it a day and went their separate ways. Their rest was uneasy.
In the morning only Echo came to breakfast. She looked nervously around but quickly overcame her fears and went looking for the others. After a quick search she found two of them in a deadly embrace near the dreaded Chair. Although it was almost pointless, she still looked through the stuff the dead left behind to determine their true allegiance. Everything was as she initially suspected neither Boyd Langton nor Alpha had her best interest in mind.
Diemo is dead. He was Boyd Langton, Mafia, Godfather, Strongman variant
Madge is dead. She was Alpha, Serial Killer, with a one-shot immunity to the Mafia NK and who could choose between the same Strongman variant or Ninja to perform the kill
Echo didn't feel safe. Mellie was still around and according to Boyd she had been permanently brainwashed to serve Rossum's interests. Echo was confident that she would survive the first ambush but she had no idea how to strike back. She desperately looked for a way out but couldn't break the security measures installed by Topher.
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Mellie stalked her former friend silently with Victor's gun in hand that the others forgot about. It all came down to this. Months of planning would go to waste if she didn't hit her shot. She aimed carefully, squeezed the trigger and... missed!
'Gosh darn it to heck! That girl moves like a cat.'
Fortunately (at least for her) by dodging the bullet Echo lost her balance and was a sitting duck for the follow-up. This time there was no one there to save her.
bessie is dead. She was Echo, Town, with a one-shot immunity to the Mafia NK
With all of her enemies eliminated there was no stopping Mellie as she searched for Topher's blueprints and delivered them to her masters in their quest for complete world domination.
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Congratulations to Diemo and emlightened for their win as the Mafia!
Thanks to everyone for participating - hope you all enjoyed it!
PS: Complete list of role-pm-s will be up shortly.
They argued a bit but neither side had the numerical advantage so they called it a day and went their separate ways. Their rest was uneasy.
In the morning only Echo came to breakfast. She looked nervously around but quickly overcame her fears and went looking for the others. After a quick search she found two of them in a deadly embrace near the dreaded Chair. Although it was almost pointless, she still looked through the stuff the dead left behind to determine their true allegiance. Everything was as she initially suspected neither Boyd Langton nor Alpha had her best interest in mind.
Diemo is dead. He was Boyd Langton, Mafia, Godfather, Strongman variant
Madge is dead. She was Alpha, Serial Killer, with a one-shot immunity to the Mafia NK and who could choose between the same Strongman variant or Ninja to perform the kill
Echo didn't feel safe. Mellie was still around and according to Boyd she had been permanently brainwashed to serve Rossum's interests. Echo was confident that she would survive the first ambush but she had no idea how to strike back. She desperately looked for a way out but couldn't break the security measures installed by Topher.
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Mellie stalked her former friend silently with Victor's gun in hand that the others forgot about. It all came down to this. Months of planning would go to waste if she didn't hit her shot. She aimed carefully, squeezed the trigger and... missed!
'Gosh darn it to heck! That girl moves like a cat.'
Fortunately (at least for her) by dodging the bullet Echo lost her balance and was a sitting duck for the follow-up. This time there was no one there to save her.
bessie is dead. She was Echo, Town, with a one-shot immunity to the Mafia NK
With all of her enemies eliminated there was no stopping Mellie as she searched for Topher's blueprints and delivered them to her masters in their quest for complete world domination.
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Congratulations to Diemo and emlightened for their win as the Mafia!
Thanks to everyone for participating - hope you all enjoyed it!
PS: Complete list of role-pm-s will be up shortly.
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Role pm-s:
adnapemit
bessie
Carlington
crucialityfactor
Diemo
dimochka
emlightened
freezeblade
jimbobmacdoodle
mpolo
Please let me know if you have any questions/observations/criticism regarding the setup/flavor/anything else!
adnapemit
Spoiler:
bessie
Spoiler:
Carlington
Spoiler:
crucialityfactor
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Diemo
Spoiler:
dimochka
Spoiler:
emlightened
Spoiler:
freezeblade
Spoiler:
jimbobmacdoodle
Spoiler:
mpolo
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Please let me know if you have any questions/observations/criticism regarding the setup/flavor/anything else!
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So I switched me and emlightened's powers so that Madge would kill the one who could get through role blocks. But then she killed me anyway and it turned out not to matter.
I just forgot to mention the Godfather part the first time round.
Thanks for playing everyone. I enjoyed it. I think that we were pretty lucky because SK killed town only (and killed the lovers).
I just forgot to mention the Godfather part the first time round.
Thanks for playing everyone. I enjoyed it. I think that we were pretty lucky because SK killed town only (and killed the lovers).
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Great play mafia, and good game.
Hopfully I'll last longer than D1 next time
Hopfully I'll last longer than D1 next time

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Sorry jimbob. I was pretty sure you were town and I was hoping that mafia would also hit town and make my life easier. Clearly I was wrong. Madge did great considering the mess I left for her.
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Well played mafia! Congratulations to emlightened for not receiving a single vote from anyone other than me. And Diemo, alas, you were the only person I was certain was town the entire game (although I like to think I would have figured it out, had I an opportunity to read the thread before you claimed). To say my scumdar is reliable is an understatement.
Good game everyone, and thank you Madge for replacing.
Sorry for dragging that out at the end. I had a small glimmer of hope that there were some hidden mechanics in my role and that when I sat in the chair I would get another power. I guess it’s not enough to read the rules; I should try to remember them too.
crucialityfactor, I wasn’t really frustrated with the game. I have a very townie meta, and I’ve been trying to develop a more aggressive meta in my last few games. When someone needed to get things started, I decided to go for it and do the most jestery thing I could think of. I didn’t have a power that could help catch scum so I wouldn’t be too big of a loss anyway. I must admit I am quite puzzled as to how, despite my attempts to be the scummiest player in the game on D1, I ended up on the top of everyone’s town list. I am again reminded that there is much I have to learn about this game.
freezeblade, sorry about needling you with the no lynch thing. I was just trying to get you to post. And apologies to anyone else I may have annoyed.
Sabrar, I don’t really know if the setup was balanced or not, maybe one of the more experienced players can share their thoughts. But in my opinion the lovers was a disadvantage for town, especially with two anti-town, every night kills. We only had one mislynch and had already lost at the beginning of D3. Actually, I think there was no way for Mafia to lose on D3 (and no kingmaker), but maybe I’m overlooking something. Nonetheless, the mere technicality of my loss in no way lessens the enjoyment I had playing the game. Thank you Sabrar for modding, and thank you everyone else for playing. I hope to play with all of you again soon.
Good game everyone, and thank you Madge for replacing.
Sorry for dragging that out at the end. I had a small glimmer of hope that there were some hidden mechanics in my role and that when I sat in the chair I would get another power. I guess it’s not enough to read the rules; I should try to remember them too.
crucialityfactor, I wasn’t really frustrated with the game. I have a very townie meta, and I’ve been trying to develop a more aggressive meta in my last few games. When someone needed to get things started, I decided to go for it and do the most jestery thing I could think of. I didn’t have a power that could help catch scum so I wouldn’t be too big of a loss anyway. I must admit I am quite puzzled as to how, despite my attempts to be the scummiest player in the game on D1, I ended up on the top of everyone’s town list. I am again reminded that there is much I have to learn about this game.
freezeblade, sorry about needling you with the no lynch thing. I was just trying to get you to post. And apologies to anyone else I may have annoyed.
Sabrar, I don’t really know if the setup was balanced or not, maybe one of the more experienced players can share their thoughts. But in my opinion the lovers was a disadvantage for town, especially with two anti-town, every night kills. We only had one mislynch and had already lost at the beginning of D3. Actually, I think there was no way for Mafia to lose on D3 (and no kingmaker), but maybe I’m overlooking something. Nonetheless, the mere technicality of my loss in no way lessens the enjoyment I had playing the game. Thank you Sabrar for modding, and thank you everyone else for playing. I hope to play with all of you again soon.
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bessie wrote:Actually, I think there was no way for Mafia to lose on D3 (and no kingmaker), but maybe I’m overlooking something.
Mafia figured out that Echo would be the most likely to be Bulletproof from a flavor pov and they were certain she was town. So for a brief moment they thought you were the SK and Madge was Echo. Had they stuck with their read they would have tried to kill you N3 and Day 4 would have been a true kingmaker situation with a 1-1-1 setup. BTW you were their back-up kill on both N1 and N2 and they almost had you as primary kill on N2 switching it up at the last moment.
Lovers were definitely a disadvantage to Town but so was including 2 NK-immune characters for Mafia. Also I consider Carlington a mislynch as well as he could have helped you win the game if left alive. Still I admit that I have no idea if the setup was truly balanced, it felt right to me with all the power-roles but I could be mistaken.
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OK, I knew I must be overlooking something.
Unreliable. My scumdar is frustratingly unreliable.
bessie wrote: To say my scumdar is reliable is an understatement.
Unreliable. My scumdar is frustratingly unreliable.

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I'm glad to see that my scumdar wasn't completely off. After I died, I guessed correctly that Diemo was mafia, although I think I got the other wrong.
I was left in a bit of a predicament in the trailing stages of D1. As I noted in Gojoe, I was confident that freezeblade wasn't scum, especially after the doctor claim. Unfortunately, the only other obvious candidate to push was mpolo, but for obvious reasons, I didn't want him to be lynched either. At the same time I couldn't be too clear in my mpolo defence because I didn't want scum realising that I knew his alignment.
Anyway, good game everyone, and thank you for nodding Sabrar. Bessie, you did your best. I had you labelled as town, because I (eventually) realised what you were trying to do (get discussion going). Shame you didn't draw the night kill though that last night. I'd have been really interested in seeing who came out on top in a 1-1-1 situation.
I was left in a bit of a predicament in the trailing stages of D1. As I noted in Gojoe, I was confident that freezeblade wasn't scum, especially after the doctor claim. Unfortunately, the only other obvious candidate to push was mpolo, but for obvious reasons, I didn't want him to be lynched either. At the same time I couldn't be too clear in my mpolo defence because I didn't want scum realising that I knew his alignment.
Anyway, good game everyone, and thank you for nodding Sabrar. Bessie, you did your best. I had you labelled as town, because I (eventually) realised what you were trying to do (get discussion going). Shame you didn't draw the night kill though that last night. I'd have been really interested in seeing who came out on top in a 1-1-1 situation.
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bessie wrote:crucialityfactor, I wasn’t really frustrated with the game. I have a very townie meta, and I’ve been trying to develop a more aggressive meta in my last few games. When someone needed to get things started, I decided to go for it and do the most jestery thing I could think of. I didn’t have a power that could help catch scum so I wouldn’t be too big of a loss anyway. I must admit I am quite puzzled as to how, despite my attempts to be the scummiest player in the game on D1, I ended up on the top of everyone’s town list. I am again reminded that there is much I have to learn about this game.
At points I was concerned that you might have just been aggressive scum trying to take over a highly inactive game. But, I tried to focus more on my initial gut feelings on players. Which I shouldn't have. I feel like I needed one more good day of game play to really suss out what was happening. Which we did not get

Well played mafia! Also, well done with balancing things sabrar! I'm sure you had much grander ideas for a larger game, but I think you scaled things down very nicely!
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That was a good game. I feel happy for winning, and stupid for lynching Carlington. I'm a bit surprised that me and Diemo didn't really accumulate any scum votes, as I guess I probably would have had jimbob not being NK on night one. The lovers dying on N1 was pretty bad, but it could have been worse. I went into this game not expecting to like playing scum that much, but I enjoyed it much more than I expected. Thanks Sabrar for the game, and I'll look forward to the next one.
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As I noted in GoJoe, why did players lynch carlington? his claim would have been stupid to make as a mafia member, and even stupider to make as a townie. Lynching mafia/SK is infinitely more important than lynching a indie survivor.
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The only players who voted him after the claim were Madge (understandable, she was the alternative) and me (something which I regretted since D3 started, and have wondered why the heck I did it since). I don't know if adnapemit or cruciality saw the post before hammer or not, though.
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Good game everyone. Congratulations Diemo and emlightened!
I didn't see Carlingtons post before hammer, I was actually delayed in getting home that day too.
It's ok. At least for this game mine was a lot worse.
Sabrar, I think the game was almost balanced, I'm not sure lovers and a serial killer was a good idea since numbers dropped really quickly but I can't say for sure as things could have gone very differently. Thank you for the effort in modding and the wonderful flavour text. I lost, I was wrong, I died horribly but I had fun.
I didn't see Carlingtons post before hammer, I was actually delayed in getting home that day too.
bessie wrote:OK, I knew I must be overlooking something.bessie wrote: To say my scumdar is reliable is an understatement.
Unreliable. My scumdar is frustratingly unreliable.
It's ok. At least for this game mine was a lot worse.
Sabrar, I think the game was almost balanced, I'm not sure lovers and a serial killer was a good idea since numbers dropped really quickly but I can't say for sure as things could have gone very differently. Thank you for the effort in modding and the wonderful flavour text. I lost, I was wrong, I died horribly but I had fun.
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I think the lovers/two night-kills combination was fairly harsh for town. But it also went on to the end anyway, though the last day was kind of pointless as far as town was concerned. (Even the SK had no chance really…)
I enjoyed the game, even though I died way too soon…
I enjoyed the game, even though I died way too soon…
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There was probably too much potential for death for a normal 10 player game but I hoped that the multiple immunitites and Doctor + Roleblocker roles would keep things in check. It could have gone either way but the variance was definitely big.
@adnapemit: I'm glad you enjoyed the flavor, I had a lot of fun writing it!
@adnapemit: I'm glad you enjoyed the flavor, I had a lot of fun writing it!
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