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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby l33t_sas » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:28 am UTC

Marbles wrote:Kind of weird and obscure one: Piers Anthony's Mode series. They sort of wander between sci-fi and fantasy... But I really enjoyed them. I have yet to ever meet anyone else who has read them, though.


I read them ages ago. Don't remember much, but I have read them. I own the first one so I might go give it another read one of these days.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

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Re: Recommend me some good Science Fiction.

Postby Eazy1980 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:06 am UTC

Starglider wrote:I don't know where to start. What is some good Sci-Fi about humanity, not just dumb fantasy worlds or whatever.


The Seafort Saga by David Feintuch, focuses mainly on humanities struggles with itself. Can be a little preachy (Heinlein style) and the main character can whinge a bit (nowhere near as much as Covenant. But then, who could?) but all 7 (8th book pending) are entrancing reads!

Be warned that they are all 600+ pages and not for the faint hearted.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Certhas » Thu May 01, 2008 1:00 pm UTC

Bump this thread because I just finished Diaspora by Greg Egan, and it references books and papers that I actually work with in real life!

Possibly the first book that I read that is truly science fiction as opposed to technology fiction. And the creation process at the beginning is just beautiful. Almost made me cry.

Also neuromancer: Good but maybe mostly of Historic interest today. The Pinnacle of Cyberpunk to me are Snow Crash and Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby bigglesworth » Thu May 01, 2008 4:12 pm UTC

Interestingly, they are hailed by some as the books that killed cyberpunk as a genre.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Certhas » Thu May 01, 2008 9:14 pm UTC

Can you elaborate? How so?
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby bigglesworth » Thu May 01, 2008 9:31 pm UTC

Erm, embarrassingly no. That's just something I read somewhere on these fora actually. Maybe the person who wrote it might see this...
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby mosc » Thu May 01, 2008 10:00 pm UTC

Eisenhorn Trilogy (available in one huge volume of like 800 pages for like $8 or somesuch ridiculous awesome value) by Dan Abnett. See this thread for more rampant Warhammer 40,000 fanboyism:
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby æðelingas_lufiend » Fri May 02, 2008 3:26 am UTC

And still no one's mentioned Cordwainer Smith. Sure the guy might have actually believed some of his stories, but I loved them (and Bloodchild, for that matter).

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Ati » Fri May 02, 2008 3:50 am UTC

bigglesworth wrote:Erm, embarrassingly no. That's just something I read somewhere on these fora actually. Maybe the person who wrote it might see this...



I'll field this one.


Snow Crash is about half a parody of the cyberpunk genre. It's self-mocking, but it's on the edge (it also has some good sci-fi in it: it's definitely not pure humor). The Diamond Age takes the universe completely beyond the cyberpunk genre entirely, into the realm of more classical science fiction (though with some decidedly original premises). Both fantastic books, but I could never read cyberpunk with a completely straight face after after Snow Crash.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby CogDissident » Fri May 02, 2008 5:08 pm UTC

My list of recommendations

Hyperion - A good 2 book run dealing with multiple intertwined short stories. Some interesting stuff.
Well World (series) - Alien races, alien races, and more alien races. I think in the 7 book main series he describes over a hundred, with 30 or so being main characters in the plot. Very different, and helpful in designing aliens as there is always a way that they just "fit" with their different societies and bodies that are made to fit an environment first-and-foremost
The Practice Effect - Its semi-fantasy, but it mostly deals with the idea of a world with an alternate rule of physics. I won't spoil it, as the first half of the book is more interesting not knowing. But its very good (also, don't read the back cover, as some editor decided to spoil it for the readers early). Easilly one of my favorite books because it can take one tiny change to the laws of physics and make it a story.

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Leonard, Part 5 » Fri May 02, 2008 7:23 pm UTC

nsmjohn wrote:"Altered Carbon" (all Takeshi Kovacs novels actually, this is the first) by Richard Morgan
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I concur on the Morgan stuff. His most recent Thirteen was also good. But I'd suggest starting with Altered Carbon too.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby BigNose » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:27 pm UTC

Hi All,

I would also recommend Neal Asher. Like Iain M Banks, he sets his stories in an AI based environment, but unlike Banks, the AI's are static and used to provide 'instant' transportation and therefore more emphasis is placed on the Human aspect.

Also, unlike Banks, who generates different types of stories potentially many years/centuries apart, Ashers' stories centre on 1 character - McCormack, along with an accompanying set of personnel.

Sometimes the plot involves a singular issue (the Dragon), but mainly there are side issues, or the Dragon is the side issue.

Separately, he also creates a world (Spatterjay) with unique properties and creates 2 books (so far) exploring this.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Apteryx » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:16 pm UTC

I second the Neil Asher recommendation. He has a sort of gritty exuberance about his writing.

Small quibble, the A.I.s are certainly not static, they actually rule the human universe, they just do so by consent, i.e. the humans have all the trappings of self rule, parliaments etc, but because the A.I.s are ( in their effects, so far ) both benevolent and completely competent, the humans always end up going "Well, whatever you think is right". As we would.

And the A.I.s control, to their own purposes, both the interstellar economies and its transport/travel, and construction of "new" A.I.s, humans are not allowed to build new A.I.s.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Rockberry » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:25 pm UTC

Zak wrote:The ender's game series, and the ender's shadow series, by Orson Scott Card, are both awesome.


Yeah, but Card sounds like a complete arsehole and I don't want to buy his books - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scot ... onal_views

Anyway, I'd recommend authors such Ian M Banks, William Gibson, Alastair Reynolds and Richard Morgan. They all write excellent scifi.

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby folkhero » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:56 am UTC

Rockberry wrote:
Zak wrote:The ender's game series, and the ender's shadow series, by Orson Scott Card, are both awesome.


Yeah, but Card sounds like a complete arsehole and I don't want to buy his books - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scot ... onal_views

Anyway, I'd recommend authors such Ian M Banks, William Gibson, Alastair Reynolds and Richard Morgan. They all write excellent scifi.

If you don't want to support Card financially, you can get his books used or from a library. If you want to boycott him on principal, it's fine by me, but you'll be missing out on some good science fiction.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Zohar » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:28 am UTC

folkhero wrote:but you'll be missing out on some good science fiction.

Average, in my experience. He writes political fiction very well, but the sci-fi aspects aren't that good.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Apteryx » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:02 am UTC

The best of Card is actually his fantasy. He hasn't the logical mind to write proper sci fi, all his sci fi attempts are really dressed up fantasy imo. Enders game and its stable mates are basically fantasy works, Spiderman analogs. Great power yadda yadda.

His fantasy novel Seventh Son : the tales of Alvin the Maker was , to a person who lives outside the USA, a very interesting story with cool allusions to old US ( that is, white people basically ) mythology and superstitions. Also some interesting character development, which according to some follows Cards personal religion ideals, but honestly if no-one ever told you that, how could you know or care?.
Reading it as purely fantasy, which it is regardless of his superstition in writing it, it is pretty good. Full of moral choices offered to people, magic, aspiration.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby BigNose » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:56 pm UTC

What I meant by Static in Neal Asher books was that the AI's are 'bound' to space stations or more normally, some form of rock, whereas in Iain M Banks's novels, the AI are exclusively (as far as I have read) ship based.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Apteryx » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:41 am UTC

Opps.

Sorry about that, yes, perfectly valid and absolutely correct use of the word there. Completely mis-read your point.

Bad my bad.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby rrannin » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:44 am UTC

As an old fellow, i must add "The Stars My Destination" by Alfred Bester. Dated & derivative, but a great yarn. i've been picking it up every 4-5 years since maybe 1960, and i still enjoy it. :?
ps i scanned the list and didn't see it. apologies if i duped it.
pps didn't see NS' "Cryptonomicon", liked it better than "Snow Crash"; not SF but this seems like the audience.

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Seli » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:18 am UTC

Some names I did not see yet.

Peter Watts, especially his Blindsight.
Robert Reed, Marrow is probably the most easy to find.
Elizabeth Moon, a lot of her work is Space Opera, however her The Speed Of Dark is a nice near future novel, at the same time a tale of autism, the specific traits that can come with it and the pressure of a company that can control and cure it.
Tobias Buckell, nice action SF

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Kevin1632 » Sat May 08, 2010 8:57 am UTC

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby big boss » Wed May 12, 2010 12:04 am UTC

Does/has anyone read any of the books that go along to any of the Blizzard games (starcraft, diablo, etc) or any other video game books in general? I know that they are aimed at the younger generation but I still like them alot. Some of them are quite bad however.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Sean Quixote » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:22 am UTC

I would totally read those, if I could ever get my hands on them... I think the only way to obtain them is buying online and I haven't a credit card.

So but anyways, I came to this thread looking for some advice as well, but I find the fact that the previous poster's three-month-old query has gone unanswered disheartening... That means that either this forum is dead, or everybody here is too snooty and elitist to read "that popsci drivel for the proles", or whatever they might call it. :P

But I suppose, since I've typed this much text already anyway, I'll go ahead and try regardless. I was at the library trying to waste some time today... I passed by Asimov, and decided that what I needed is some good scifi. I certainly don't mind some "hard" sci-fi as long as it's a good story, but I'd also prefer a story that's kind of a mixture between the "soft" that actually has other themes than science, and the "hard" science fiction. So, I'm looking for some recommendations of sci-fi literature along these lines. Does anybody know what I mean?

As far as Asimov is concerned I decided to go ahead and check out The Gods Themselves for now, but I'm thinking that the Foundation or/and Galactic Empire series might also be to my liking. As far as other authors, before anyone even mentions it, of course, the Ender series is on my to-read list. ;) I'm sure I'd enjoy Clarke, too, if I got into his stuff (I read 2010 while in jail, a few years back, and I liked it a lot). I've heard some good things about Heinlein, too, though I have also heard that he was a pedophile and had an Oedipus complex, so I dunno. :P

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby Jorpho » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:01 am UTC

Sean Quixote wrote:But I suppose, since I've typed this much text already anyway, I'll go ahead and try regardless. I was at the library trying to waste some time today... I passed by Asimov, and decided that what I needed is some good scifi. I certainly don't mind some "hard" sci-fi as long as it's a good story, but I'd also prefer a story that's kind of a mixture between the "soft" that actually has other themes than science, and the "hard" science fiction. So, I'm looking for some recommendations of sci-fi literature along these lines. Does anybody know what I mean?
Nope. That sounds like it could cover just about anything that isn't particularly hard or soft. So I'll toss out Kiln People by David Brin and Hyperion by Dan Simmons, just because I can.

I've heard some good things about Heinlein, too, though I have also heard that he was a pedophile and had an Oedipus complex, so I dunno. :P
Wow. Not really, no. I'll admit The Door into Summer kind of touches on that, though. Really, he's more about gratuitous but harmless nudity more than anything else – that, and wise elder figures that serve as author mouthpieces. He's about as deep as Alan Dean Foster, which is to say, not very.

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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby PAstrychef » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:51 am UTC

Sean Quixote wrote:So but anyways, I came to this thread looking for some advice as well, but I find the fact that the previous poster's three-month-old query has gone unanswered disheartening... That means that either this forum is dead, or everybody here is too snooty and elitist to read "that popsci drivel for the proles", or whatever they might call it. :P

and I also heard that he (Hienlein) was a pedophile and had an Oedipus complex, so I dunno. :P

Well the last part I've never heard before and I've been doing S.F. Since god made dirt.
As for the former- perhaps no one had read the books in question?
You could try C.J. Cherryh series that starts with Pride of Chanur.
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Re: Recomend me some Sci-Fi !

Postby AvatarIII » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:20 am UTC

Sean Quixote wrote:but I find the fact that the previous poster's three-month-old query has gone unanswered disheartening...


look at the year...12th May 2010 to 12th Aug 2011 is not 3 months.... it's 15!!! dun dun duuuuuuun!


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