What's up with minimalism?

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What's up with minimalism?

Postby PlayingMonkey » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:37 am UTC

I'm just curious, it seems like every wanna be musician now loves minimalism. I agree it's cool, but I'm wondering when it got so big? It seems like everyone/everything wanting to be cool now says "Oh me yarm minimalism is awesome I love it!"

I remember when Stravinsky was the person to use to pretend to be musical. When is it Schoenberg's time? Or Bartok? Or Janos Komives? Or John Adams?

Someone please clarify?
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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby Sandry » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:21 am UTC

I don't follow.

I mean, the deal is, Stravinsky is goddamned awesome. John Adams? Also stupidly awesome. Bela Bartok? Again, yes. Not familiar with Komives, and have absolutely no interested in Schoenberg, but I think it's pretty cynical to assert that composers are popular because it's trendy, rather than because they compose quality music.

It's true that no one's going around talking about how awesome Handel is terribly often at this point, and that newer things are more likely to be currently popular because we've had less time to grow blasé about them, I suppose, but I don't think anyone ever decided, "hey, minimalism should be popular. Let's fanboy Terry Riley for no particular reason."
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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby PlayingMonkey » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:26 am UTC

I completely agree, minimalism is awesome. I'm just wondering when it became so popular and mainstream. It seems everywhere I go (online) I hear people promoting minimalism, either through one composer or through a band that uses it and so on, and I'm just curious when it became big.

Komives is a French composer who died 5 years ago. I don't know too much about his music but I'm going to perform one of his pieces. It's contemporary, but it has cool Jazz influences.

Basically I was wondering when it became so popular.
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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby ChocloManx » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:14 am UTC

I think minimalism is somewhat associated with rock music so that might be it?
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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby Ithinkabouttrees » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:55 pm UTC

Minimalism has actually been around for a while. Nirvana, The Ramones, The Runaways, early Green Day, and The Troggs to name a few. The reason that minimalism is so popular is because it doesn’t take a lot to listen to it and like it. It’s catchy, and most of the time it’s just fun. I’d rather listen to a really good 3 chord song than a 19 chord suspended minor song that is way too busy.
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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby kaniman2 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:21 pm UTC

Ithinkabouttrees wrote:Minimalism has actually been around for a while. Nirvana, The Ramones, The Runaways, early Green Day, and The Troggs to name a few. The reason that minimalism is so popular is because it doesn’t take a lot to listen to it and like it. It’s catchy, and most of the time it’s just fun. I’d rather listen to a really good 3 chord song than a 19 chord suspended minor song that is way too busy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalist_music

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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby JordanM » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:03 am UTC

I think it's the "Early Adopter" theory- When people like Steve Reich, and Philip Glass first composed it, it wasn't hitting the general public, only the musicians.

On a side note, Koyaanisqatsi is cool.

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Re: What's up with minimalism?

Postby Antimatter Spork » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:27 am UTC

Schoenberg, Stravinsky, and Bartok already all had their time as trendsetters though.

I'd say the popular success of Phillip Glass, John Adams (who is minimalist in a lot of ways) and (to a lesser extent) Steve Reich, Terry Riley, Morton Feldman, and LaMonte Young really was what established minimalism as the "in" thing.

Though of course the music world today is much less unified than it was fifty or a hundred years ago, so you see a lot more stylistic diversity among different composers and stuff.
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