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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Malice » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:33 am UTC

mosc wrote:I would just like to point out that I fail as a topic creator for this due to Fifth Element being mentioned by so many people. It's rated 7.3 on IMDB (which is actually well in the good category). It was not a flop in the box office either (although not really a success due to a 90 million budget). Most reviewers criticize it but enjoyed it. Ba-da-boom baby!


The Fifth Element is, honestly, a really bad movie. It's fairly imaginative, with good production values, some good acting (especially Chris Tucker), and interesting visuals (especially the costumes, and Milla Jovovich); but it's spectacularly badly written (the only thing it does sort-of well are the cross-cutting scenes--a bit like Watchmen's but on a smaller scale), which kinda kills any chance of, you know, quality. It's a fun movie, and worth seeing if only for the visuals; but overall it is without meaning or sense.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:41 pm UTC

I don't get it. It's one of the best sci-fi action comedies ever made.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby mosc » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:34 pm UTC

Victorkm wrote:I don't get it. It's one of the best sci-fi action comedies ever made.


Sci Fi + Action + Comedy is a relatively limited Genre. I'd go so far as to say it's the best movie in that limited genre. Anyone care to dispute?
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:40 pm UTC

mosc wrote:
Victorkm wrote:I don't get it. It's one of the best sci-fi action comedies ever made.


Sci Fi + Action + Comedy is a relatively limited Genre. I'd go so far as to say it's the best movie in that limited genre. Anyone care to dispute?


I'd rate it better than all three of the star wars prequels, battlefield earth, Blade Runner for just the sci fi(not the philosophy and other excellence), Rush Hour, Rush Hour 2, need I go on?

I'm just saying that I don't think Fifth Element is considered a bad movie. It's not one of those that every likes because it is so terrible in a funny way, and it isn't unentertaining at all. It's leaps and bounds ahead of even Snakes on a Plane.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby mosc » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:56 pm UTC

star wars has some comedy but blade runner? Not really. Some comedy is implied in any drama I guess. They're not totally unrelated in general but I think the 5th element really wanted and succeeded in being quite funny in several places (just for funny's sake).

Other sci fi action comedies I can think of that were good (but not as good):
Transformers
Riddick (if you've got a really dark humor)
Ice Pirates (if you can call that low budget crap action)
damned if I can think of other things

lets be honest, most sci-fi isn't that funny. Other comedy type movies (that just happen to have sci fi) have no real action (space balls, earth girls are easy, whatever). It's rare to find all 3 in spades.

Regardless, I still vehemently think 5th element shouldn't be anywhere near this thread.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Malice » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:53 pm UTC

Ghostbusters is the first candidate which comes to mind for the best sci-fi action comedy.
Back to the Future doesn't have a lot of action but it's there.
The Incredibles is a sci-fi-action-comedy.
That's what a quick scan of each genre by itself on IMDB top list gets me.

Also:

The Rush Hour movies have no science fiction in them, man.
And Blade Runner has no comedy.

I assume you've imagined the existence of some surreal hybrid of the two--a darkly humorous story of replicant murder in the distant future when all blade runners must be paired with fast-talking black buddy-cops. Blade Hour. You need to either cease and desist this line of thought immediately, or make that movie.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby LoonRadio » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:34 pm UTC

Nobody has mentioned GalaxyQuest? I'm appalled.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:06 am UTC

Malice wrote:Ghostbusters is the first candidate which comes to mind for the best sci-fi action comedy.
Back to the Future doesn't have a lot of action but it's there.
The Incredibles is a sci-fi-action-comedy.
That's what a quick scan of each genre by itself on IMDB top list gets me.

Also:

The Rush Hour movies have no science fiction in them, man.
And Blade Runner has no comedy.

I assume you've imagined the existence of some surreal hybrid of the two--a darkly humorous story of replicant murder in the distant future when all blade runners must be paired with fast-talking black buddy-cops. Blade Hour. You need to either cease and desist this line of thought immediately, or make that movie.


I was making a comparison to other sci-fi, or action comedies.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Malice » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:19 pm UTC

Ah, well, in that case. There are plenty of action movies better than the action in The Fifth Element (because the action in that movie is entirely meaningless, not to mention unimaginative); there are plenty of science fiction movies better than the sci-fi in The Fifth Element (because the science fiction in that movie is based purely on physical aspects rather than ideas); and there are plenty of better comedies than The Fifth Element because, well, it just isn't that funny.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:55 pm UTC

Why don't we agree to disagree and just say that regardless of the oscar nomination, and numerous other foreign and domestic awards and nominations that you will still disagree and call it bad because YOU didnt like it.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Malice » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:16 pm UTC

Oh, I'm not saying I didn't like it.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby TheKhakinator » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:29 pm UTC

Well, regardless of The Fifth Element, which I thought was a good movie (screw all that shit about movies not being well written, it's just about enjoyment) the movie I like which everyone else I've met hasn't liked was the Initial D live action movie.
    Initial D was brilliant. It had:
  • Illegal street racing
  • Enjo kōsai (compensated dating)
  • People crying
  • A fight at a petrol station
  • Angst
  • Alcoholism
  • Vomit
Totally awesome movie. I really think (personally) that it's great but everyone else I talk to doesn't.

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Postby no-genius » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:18 pm UTC

Peshmerga wrote:I liked The Wicker Man purely because of Nicolas Cage. God damn that movie was really bad.

Have you seen the original?

Also Alien Resurrection is just bad. Should never have happened... but I like it (also alien III).
Cabin Fever was kinda dumb.
erm, whatelse... yeah, I think 5th element is a bad film. Oh, and the resident evil films (only seen the first 2)
also possibly the Underworld films, only I'm not sure if they're bad.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Astronaut » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:35 pm UTC

If IMDB is the judge of good/bad movies, Planet of the Apes doesn't belong to this list, but I remember thinking the first time I saw it: "This is not a good movie, the acting is poor and parts of the storyline are very silly. And still, I like it. See that thing they did with the humans being treated as animals? That's quite clever."

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Jesse » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:35 pm UTC

Edward Woodward was boss in that film.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby no-genius » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:42 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:Edward Woodward was boss in that film.

No, Christopher Lee was the boss :P
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Jesse » Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:55 pm UTC

You're English aren't you? Maybe different dialect. Up here, 'boss' means 'awesome'.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Narsil » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:06 pm UTC

The Brain That Wouldn't Die

God damn this is a brilliant movie. (To save my cred I would like everyone to know I saw this waaay before I knew it had been MST3K'd.

It's about a mad scientist keeping alive a woman's head through use of...I think they actually call it "Brain Serum". Meanwhile, the mad scientist is also creating a giant horrible monster he keeps in the closet (the woman, once another body is found, will be a mate for it), and the woman suddenly develops telepathy and forms a bond with the creature.

I mean, I never thought it was a bad movie when I saw it. I enjoyed the hell out of this film.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby yellie » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:16 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:Edward Woodward was boss in that film.


Ewa Woowar!! (um. see: Simon and Edgar's commentary for Hot Fuzz.)


Anyway, what I came here to originally post: Death Bed: The Bed That Eats.

I don't really know HOW to explain this film, but if you're not a Ghostbusters fan, you probably won't recall, but if you are: remember the toys they used to make for The Real Ghostbusters? In the beginning they were really cool, and were based on episodes of the cartoon, but then toward the end they kind of just started producing toys of random household appliances with teeth? I remember I had a demon toilet toy. Well, Death Bed: The Bed That Eats kind of reminds me of those Ghostbusters toys.

Just... Look it up on Wikipedia. It's brilliant.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Daehlie » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:48 pm UTC

Reno 911 Miami, this movie was a little rediculous, but the satire is so sharp and the candence of the dialog is awkward in much the same manner that the television show did.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Sum Ergo Sum » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:22 am UTC

Plan 9 from Outer Space: that movie actually isn't as bad as everyone says it is- despite the overacting, weak plot, and the fact that the special effects budget seemed to be "Ed Wood's pocket change," I've seen worse. And it was thoroughly enjoyable as a bad movie.

Robot Monster: remember three lines ago, when I said "I've seen worse?" This is it. This movie was probably more enjoyably bad than Plan 9. For example, the antagonist is a man in a gorilla suit with a diving helmet. Also, if you look closely at one of the rocket scenes, you can clearly see a hand holding the rocket in the air.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes: It tried to be funny, but it failed, so it was just sad. This, oddly enough, made it funny again. It's kind of hard to explain without watching the movie.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby J Dizzle » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:39 am UTC

Freddy Got Fingered.

People need to realise that it is not one of the worst movies ever.

It is, in fact, one of the BEST movies ever!

Rip Torn is so awesome...

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby no-genius » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:47 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:You're English aren't you? Maybe different dialect. Up here, 'boss' means 'awesome'.

Yes, but the word has more than one meaning, and my post was a joke playing on another meaning of the word 'boss', as in 'person who is in charge'. Although Christopher Lee was far more awesome than Edward Woodward.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby jwwells » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:22 am UTC

The Inspector General, the Danny Kaye version.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Umlaut » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:45 pm UTC

Hackers and The Fifth Element.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:51 pm UTC

Umlaut wrote:Hackers and The Fifth Element.


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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby no-genius » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:05 pm UTC

Dead Right (one of the extras on Hot Fuzz)
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby xenuphobia » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:36 pm UTC

Baseketball!

I mean, it's probably a terrible movie to most people, but the humor is spot-on for me. I've seen it too many times to count and I know a lot of the dialogue by heart, for better or for worse.
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Postby Jesse » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:24 pm UTC

no-genius wrote:
Jesster wrote:You're English aren't you? Maybe different dialect. Up here, 'boss' means 'awesome'.

Yes, but the word has more than one meaning, and my post was a joke playing on another meaning of the word 'boss', as in 'person who is in charge'. Although Christopher Lee was far more awesome than Edward Woodward.


True, but I like how they took Edward Woodward's usual character of the policeman/authoirty figure/hero and twisted it on its head.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Sulla158 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:20 am UTC

Hackers was a great bad movie. Outbreak and Tremors are my two other favorite bad movies, we must have watched Outbreak 4 or 5 times during my two years of Biology with the same teacher.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby dbsmith » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:07 am UTC

HOOK!!!!!!!

ANYONE? anyone? anyone?

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Postby LoonRadio » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:41 pm UTC

Battlefield Baseball is... indescribable. Just go watch it.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Narsil » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:09 am UTC

By a Similar Note, Shaolin Soccer was fan-god damn-tastic.
Go see it.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Poopraham Lincoln » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:33 pm UTC

For those that love getting together with friends and tearing apart movies: Road House. That movie is priceless!

If you can handle that, watch it three or four times... THEN!

...wait for it...


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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby pr1mu5 » Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:54 pm UTC

Grandma's Boy.

Waiting...

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:37 pm UTC

pr1mu5 wrote:Grandma's Boy.

Waiting...


also not bad movies.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Mecks » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:55 pm UTC

dbsmith wrote:HOOK!!!!!!!

ANYONE? anyone? anyone?


I liked Hook too. Maybe it's because there was a six month period of my youth where I watched the Disney Peter Pan literally every day, and I was a little obsessed. It was one of the few Robin Williams performances where I didn't feel that he had just snorted several lines of coke right before every scene.
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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby cathrl » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:07 pm UTC

Hook has a special place in my fond memories, because I first saw it dubbed into French (I'm English, fluent in French, but not bilingual). The poor French voice actor spent the entire movie desperately trying to keep up with Robin Williams, and mostly failing.

I've since seen it in English several times, and it's not half as funny.

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Victorkm » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:32 am UTC

Hook is one of my favorite movies :<

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Re: Bad Movies You Love

Postby Freyja » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:06 pm UTC

The Last Unicorn.

No joke. I kinda have to be in the mood to watch it, but it's the best movie to watch while under the influence (of anything).
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