Izawwlgood wrote:Wizard of Oz is kind of a classic. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but not having seen it is, to me anyway, akin to saying you love video games but have never played, say, Pac Man. Granted, you never said you loved movies. Anyway, the point is, the context of the joke was, as already explained by ConMan, that Cap'n America is a child of the 20's; being in a cloaking flying air craft carrier around people who are speaking in tongues about aspects of physical reality he can't begin to wrap his head around, in a world that left him behind ~60 years ago, he grabbed onto a pop culture reference he understood, and was excited to be part of the conversation as it was going on. It was... endearing and somewhat sad.
I hate Wizard of Oz endlessly, be it in book, movie, or theater production. It has highly questionable values, ridiculously black and white morality, and honestly, not much else in it. This isn't lack of exposure talking. I used to manage a show of it. I could hear that stupidity in my sleep. It is a fair point that movies have advanced a great deal since then. However, I would point out that, in it's time, it wasn't exactly a smashing hit.
Avengers, on the other hand, is a damned quality film. As one example, Captain America was portrayed particularly well. My favorite line is the "there's only one god..." bit. It's perfect, because it sounds so very, very right for him. We are subtly kept aware that he is definitely a man out of time...but a lesser movie would have spent plenty of screen time watching the actor angst over this fact, instead of the extremely economical, brilliant treatment we got.