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Postby semicolon » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:21 pm UTC

I just watched This Film is Not Yet Rated and now I'm ANGRY! Documentary-induced rage is pretty awesome. But, I don't really watch documentaries. Ever. I feel like I'm missing out on an entire section of movies I've never seen or heard of. The only other documentary that I've seen, in recent memory, was The U.S. vs. John Lennon, which was good, but if I hadn't have already liked John Lennon I probably wouldn't have liked it. I also have Sicko on my hard drive waiting to be watched, but Michael Moore doesn't really have a good reputation for, uh, not sensationalizing the fuck out of everything, so I might not bother with it.

Slightly related: I had no idea Michael Moore directed Canadian Bacon until I saw it on Wikipedia. It was kind of weird.

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Postby MFHodge » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:47 pm UTC

One of my favorite recent documentaries is "Word Play". It's about crossword puzzles.

I think the mark of a good documentary is when it makes you really excited about something that you really weren't interested in before watching it.
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Postby TheTankengine » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:50 pm UTC

The only good things to come from documentaries are mockumentaries.


Unless you count the history and discovery channels, then those too.
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Postby Zohar » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:13 pm UTC

I loved "The Aristocrats". It's a documentary about a very filthy joke that is almost never told on stage, only among comedians. Since they're interviewing about 50 comedians there, it's pretty funny. I must've watched it three times on TV already.
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Postby Lani » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:04 pm UTC

I would recommend that everyone see The Weather Underground - it's about a radical and militant group protesting the Vietnam war. It's a bit of American history that I hadn't known about (the militant part, that wasn't the Black Panthers) and I think it's relevant today. After all, how do you get a government that seems bent on ignoring the public will to start listening?
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Postby ehiunno » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:14 pm UTC

Everyone needs to see Spinal Tap. Its a real documentary, I promise. It will make you think. hard. about... life.

At this point, I refuse to watch anything by Michael Moore. I watched F 911 and enough of Bowling for Columbine to realize what crap they are.

Overall though I haven't seen that many. I should probably get on that, I am sure there are some very interesting ones out there.

Do Nova's count as documentaries? I know I was in love with "The Elegant Universe," I also remember seeing a really interesting one on Relativity.

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Postby TheTankengine » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:25 pm UTC

ehiunno wrote:Everyone needs to see Spinal Tap. Its a real documentary, I promise. It will make you think. hard. about... life.

At this point, I refuse to watch anything by Michael Moore. I watched F 911 and enough of Bowling for Columbine to realize what crap they are.

Overall though I haven't seen that many. I should probably get on that, I am sure there are some very interesting ones out there.

Do Nova's count as documentaries? I know I was in love with "The Elegant Universe," I also remember seeing a really interesting one on Relativity.


See my earlier comment...

I think the NOVA series counts. "The Elegant Universe" is definitely made of scientific win.
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:24 pm UTC

About This Film is Not Yet Rated

The documentary asks whether Hollywood movies and independent films are rated equally for comparable content; whether sexual content in gay-themed movies is given harsher ratings penalties than their heterosexual counterparts; whether it makes sense that extreme violence is given an R rating while sexuality is banished to the cutting room floor; whether Hollywood studios receive detailed directions as to how to change an NC-17 film into an R, while independent film producers are left guessing; and finally, whether keeping the raters and the rating process secret leaves the MPAA entirely unaccountable for its decisions.


1. No
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3. No
4. Duh?
5. As accountable as the RIAA, the ESRB, the Red Cross, the Shriners, the Masons, and so on.

It appears to me that the documentaries that are getting a lot of public attention are not documentaries, but more like two hour long episodes of Bullshit, sans the comedy.

Case in point - Michael Moore.
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Postby __Kit » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:54 pm UTC

Yeah I'm going to watch The Spinal Tap one (it's on TV this Sunday)
I don't go out to watch doco.'s but if there's one on I may watch it :)
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Postby Castaway » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:32 pm UTC

Supersize me was not bad the first time. I really do want to see Wordplay though, my friend is a crossword fiend. He writes his own by hand.
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Postby pollywog » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:33 pm UTC

__Kit wrote:Yeah I'm going to watch The Spinal Tap one (it's on TV this Sunday)
I don't go out to watch doco.'s but if there's one on I may watch it :)


Holy crap! What channel??!!! My favourite documentary is probably Pirates of the Caribbean. It's about the lives of pirates in 18th and 19th century Americas.
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Postby __Kit » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:37 pm UTC

C4, what else? but it advertises it as a mockumentary, which I'm not sure is true.
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Postby Jesse » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:38 pm UTC

It is a mockumentary, one that was so popular that the band then really did go on tour.

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Postby pollywog » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:40 pm UTC

Yeah, it's not true. Damn, C4 is a channel I don't have. But, haha, I have a video store card.
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Postby __Kit » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:47 pm UTC

C4 is free to view, I mean I have, you just have to tune your TV, or watch it at a friends.

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Postby pollywog » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:51 pm UTC

My tv can't pick it up. And my nearest freind with a tv live 25 kilometres away.
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Postby __Kit » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:53 pm UTC

Get sky? or that new digital channel?

How expensive is that new digital thing? I know Sky is costly/
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Postby the Cow » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:55 pm UTC

Its all I ever watch. When I take my family on long car trips we play a game called, "name a subject which Dad has not yet seen a documentary".
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Postby pollywog » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:57 pm UTC

New digital thing is over $600

the Cow wrote:Its all I ever watch. When I take my family on long car trips we play a game called, "name a subject which Dad has not yet seen a documentary".


This needs to become a forum game. Wierd and wonderful documentaries, or something.
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Postby TheTankengine » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:38 am UTC

the Cow wrote:Its all I ever watch. When I take my family on long car trips we play a game called, "name a subject which Dad has not yet seen a documentary".


I love the Cow so very much.

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Postby Rodan » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:41 am UTC

Zohar wrote:I loved "The Aristocrats". It's a documentary about a very filthy joke that is almost never told on stage, only among comedians. Since they're interviewing about 50 comedians there, it's pretty funny. I must've watched it three times on TV already.


Full of disgusting awesomeness. Too bad I never finished it...

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Postby EvanED » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:00 am UTC

Zohar wrote:I loved "The Aristocrats". It's a documentary about a very filthy joke that is almost never told on stage, only among comedians. Since they're interviewing about 50 comedians there, it's pretty funny. I must've watched it three times on TV already.


Wait... The Aristocrats? On TV?!

*boggles*

I hate the US sometimes. ;-)

That said, I think that's a movie you should watch in a group of friends. I did that, and it was great fun (compounded by us sitting around for two hours afterward and telling jokes back and forth), but I went back and watched some of the clips a year later by myself and it felt really creepy.

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Postby Hammer » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:04 am UTC

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the Cow wrote:Its all I ever watch. When I take my family on long car trips we play a game called, "name a subject which Dad has not yet seen a documentary".


I love the Cow so very much.

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Postby darry » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:31 am UTC

there's a guy called louis theroux who did a load of documentaries on bbc (i don't know if they were shown in the states) that were all awesome, he's such a great journalist. also, there was one about scientology recently that was brilliant, if a little scary. has anyone seen "what the bleep do we know?!" that's a pretty cool half documentary...
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Postby SecondTalon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:36 am UTC

Except it's innacurate on a number of topics

Like propagating the stupid "We use 10% of our brains!" junk.
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Postby darry » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:48 am UTC

yeah, but like a lot of misleading documentaries, it's enjoyable to be taken along for the ride!
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Postby SecondTalon » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:52 am UTC

It is enjoyable to be sucked in to a film and have your belief suspended so that you believe, for a time, that people can fly, or that spaceships make a sound in space, and so on...

But not in a documentary.
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Postby McLurker » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:57 am UTC

I like Michael Moore stuff, except for Fahrenheit 9/11, which was aimless.

I loved The Secret Rulers of the World by Jon Ronson, a series of Tv docs. And anything by John Pilger is well worth watching.

The Corporation may be my favourite documentary.

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Postby darry » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:59 am UTC

why not? pretty much all documentaries present warped facts and are biased toward one side of the argument - as long as you can separate the fact from the rubbish after you've watched it, then surely it doesn't hurt to enjoy it on the way?
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