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Disney, Fox, MCU

Postby OP Tipping » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:05 am UTC

So Disney are going to obtain the rights to the X-men and Fantastic Four. The vloggers have been busy discussing how to incorporate these into the MCU.

To my mind, it's possible to introduce the FF, as their origin story can be commenced at any time.
Whether or not they should do this is another matter. There must be some limit as to how big the MCU can get. No? Okay.

But I cannot see how the X-men universe can coexist with the MCU. The mutant conflict was the major news of the X-men universe. There are tens of thousands of mutants. They've been around a long time. You can't wedge this into the MCU ... "So how about all this mutant problem that's been around all this time but we've never mentioned, eh?"

It was fine with GOTG, because that was all happening in SPAAAAAACE, so it's tolerable that it coexists with the same universe as the Avengers. And the Doctor Strange Wizarding World was also kept secret from the secular world, so okay, I can suspend disbelief there. But not the X-men universe.

Why not just continue the X-men series as a separate universe? It's been profitable, and has had some good movies.

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Re: Disney, Fox, MCU

Postby Zohar » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:19 am UTC

Why wouldn't it happen pretty much exactly as it did in the first X-Men movie? Mutants start popping up all over the place and we learn there was a secret school helping them out. Not too far fetched - they just need to reboot the franchise. Hugh Jackman already basically said he's done, I think, so what's there to lose? Deadpool? They can find a way to include him I suppose.

But I agree - there's no need to have everything happen in the same cinematic universe. Presumably the new Avengers will kill off some characters and end some storylines though.
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Re: Disney, Fox, MCU

Postby ConMan » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:03 am UTC

Zohar wrote:Why wouldn't it happen pretty much exactly as it did in the first X-Men movie? Mutants start popping up all over the place and we learn there was a secret school helping them out. Not too far fetched - they just need to reboot the franchise. Hugh Jackman already basically said he's done, I think, so what's there to lose? Deadpool? They can find a way to include him I suppose.

But I agree - there's no need to have everything happen in the same cinematic universe. Presumably the new Avengers will kill off some characters and end some storylines though.

I would be completely unsurprised if they did do something like this, and then brought Deadpool in to specifically ask about the canonicity of the previous X-Men movies, just like how he mentioned in his original film that it was unclear which timeline it took place in.
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Re: Disney, Fox, MCU

Postby rmsgrey » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:13 pm UTC

They already tried doing a kinda-XMen/mutants with the Inhumans (at least in TV land).

They could do an emergence-of-mutants story, particularly if the sudden rise in mutancy gets blamed on some cataclysmic event - like, say, a battle with Thanos in which the powers of the infinity gems get unleashed - the fallout from that could explain a whole lot of weirdness.

Of course, there would be a small number of mutants that pre-date the Event, but the background Class D mutants, morlocks, etc could be new and prompt anti-mutant hysteria.

Another option would be for some force, say a powerful telepath with a machine capable of reaching every mind on the planet, to have been keeping the existence of mutants covered up...

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Re: Disney, Fox, MCU

Postby SecondTalon » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:50 pm UTC

Or a time traveling telepathic warrior from the future with an impulsive idiot sidekick retcons reality.
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Re: Disney, Fox, MCU

Postby Jorpho » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:21 pm UTC

It is abundantly clear from the comics that Marvel totes loves dem multiverses. I can't imagine the inevitable crossover happening any other way.

From there, it seems one possible scenario is that the MCU will end up getting as horrifically bloated as the comics and that audiences will subsequently lose interest, but it seems about as likely that superohero movies will get played out in general before that point is reached.


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