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Postby semicharmed » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:08 pm UTC

I most definitely got my Secret Santa gift, from Jessica.
I'm not @ home, and so can't take pictures, but it was an awesome <3 my Guts uterus, and an awesome sticker & a pin. My new uterus is happily sitting on my bookcase with my stuffed E. coli, Ebola, and West Nile. She's very happy there.
And as soon as I hunt up my hot glue gun, the pin will be joining my collection on my messenger.
Pictures will be forthcoming, though, once I'm home. Probably Tuesday night.
And on the sending front, I'm one of the aforementioned shipping delays, but when mine ships, I'll let poxic know so she can let my Secret Santee know when it's on the way.

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Postby Cassi » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:55 pm UTC

So Shark Week eventually did turn up, and it's been a pretty unpleasant experience. Unbelievably heavy, when I'm used to it being pretty light. And pretty painful. It did not exactly add to my appreciation of the hell that was my trains home today, as I had to change pads once in a station toilet and twice in train toilets...very glad I just couldn't be arsed with the mooncup, because as much as I do love it, sometimes it is just too much to deal with, and today would have been one of those times. So we'll see how the next couple of months go...hopefully things'll lighten up a bit again, because if it's like the past couple of days have been every month, I might start to think artificial hormones are the way to go after all...
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Postby Flying Betty » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:06 am UTC

I really need to start keeping track of Shark Week. It's actually quite regular, but I just don't pay attention. I started bleeding this morning which explains why I was sore and crampy all week.

PictureSarah wrote:I would like so much to be able to use my DivaCup. Less wasteful than tampons, more convenient...but I can't for the life of me make it work, and since I started back on the NuvaRing, I feel like the cup + the ring is too much stuff up there, making it even more complicated, and also my flow is so light that I only require a tampon per day or so.

There are other cups out there that might be better if it's a fit issue- the DivaCup is one of the largest cups. This compares sizes of just about every cup that's currently available. (Also, I have one of these, size small, unused that I'd be happy to send to someone who wants to try a cup.)
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Postby Rinsaikeru » Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:27 pm UTC

There are websites for that Flying Betty, I use Monthly info but there are others as well. It even emails me just before I'm due to warn me and lets me know several months in advance when I'm likely to be shark weeking.
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Postby GraphiteGirl » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:30 am UTC

Ooh ooh ooh, I just got my Secret Santa gifts! Pics will be uploaded soon, but thank you so much dragon! You've obviously been paying attention around FaiD, because you sent me my very favourite chocolate!
I'm running a little late on Santa things, but hopefully my giftee will receive her present soon.
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Postby tin » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:38 pm UTC

So, a few pages ago, I asked y'all for opinions on some dresses for my Christmas shindigs. As much as I loved all three of those and appreciated your awesome comments, I ended up getting distracted by another dress, much like how a cat gets distracted by a scrunched up ball of tin foil. My reasoning was this : "Fuck it....slinky and figure hugging is the way to go!".

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Apologies for the shitty camera phone quality. I'm going to try and find some nice heels to go with it for New Years in the sales. :)
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Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:39 pm UTC

ooo prettyful!
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Postby Jessica » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:22 pm UTC

pretty dress is pretty! :D
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Postby tin » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:54 am UTC

Thanks ladies! I'm looking forward to boogieing in it on the dancefloor!
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Postby Jessica » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:34 pm UTC

I read what snug said in the rant thread, and started talking about skirts there, then I realized it's much more of a woman thread thing. so I'll say it here...

I really want to get used to wearing skirts. I like them. They look good in the abstract (thought I don't know if they really look great on me...) and they're really feminine, and they're pretty. But, they give me contact rashes between my legs every time. And they just aren't easy, unlike jeans. they take so much more work then I want to do when I get dressed...

I wish I had been socialized as a woman from an early age. It sucks having to work on this shit, and not really getting it, or understanding.

Stupid stuff.
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Postby existential_elevator » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:42 pm UTC

A good pair of tights can help with any contact rashes you get. Or under-shorts [which is perfectly acceptable in cold weather - I used to always wear hot-pants under my dresses in winter]

I'm only just getting used to wearing skirty-dress things as intended myself. I don't know why it feels weird but it does? I guess I've worn trousers most of my life. Anyway, what I used to do as a teenager when I was all "skirts are pretty but I feel awkward in one" was to wear leggings or jeans with a above-the-knee skirt/dress. You just have to make sure the trousers aren't baggy. It works better with dresses. It kind of gets you used to wearing a dress but without the worries of knobbly knees. I still struggle a bit with the idea but I wear pretty skirts to work now! so yay! If I can do it [as a self-confessed tomboy] then I know you can do it too.

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Postby Zohar » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:46 pm UTC

I was just going to suggest tights as well, Jessica. BTW, avatars are back, you just need to upload one.
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Postby GraphiteGirl » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:46 pm UTC

Jessica, I just had the contact rash problem today (blech hot weather and bad tights) and so I went and bought myself a new pair of bike shorts to wear under my skirts. Pretty much solves the problem completely, and they are perfect if you are ungraceful like me and like climbing over things like fences and bike racks. Leggings and tights/pantyhose also solve the problem, depending on the weave (if they're coarse they can exacerbate it; if they're thin they can rub away with wear and become useless for the purpose, which is why I ended up needing the bike shorts.)
Also, have never seen a pic of you in a skirt, but you look lovely in your black dress with the birds. A-line cuts seem to work well on you. You could also try a pencil skirt if you aren't sure about which styles work on you; I've yet to see anyone who doesn't look pretty spiffy in a well-cut pencil skirt.

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Postby Jessica » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:59 pm UTC

I thought I had an avatar... *re-uploads it* is it there now?

Thanks for the advice. I'm still worried about tights, as I just don't know... but yeah. I have a pair of purple/black vertical stripped tights... or are they leggings? they have holes in the bottom for my feet, and they feel like a pair of spandex pants from the 80s. Which makes me wince, because I tried to block out spandex. I kind of hate it a lot...

I don't know...
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Postby Sungura » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:05 pm UTC

Avatar is there now!
And yes, I know what you mean, my legs rub together up top way....my hints
1) keep it shaved well so it's smooth and the hair is not what is irritating (which often I find is what it is, unless it's hot and sticky weather)
2) if it's hot and sticky - lotion. I don't like the biker short things (although that does work very well too!) it might get a bit abrasive, but one time I just let it be sore and get a bit raw (although I used lotion to make it managable) and then I didn't wear a skirt for a few days to let the rawness go away. For me, when I do something like that, my skin toughens up and it doesn't happen again.
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Postby Alder » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:20 pm UTC

Period + the cold = urgggggggggggh...
Though my excellent mum has bought all the stuff that I thought I'd have to go out and get, so I can stay in and die in peace. With cottage cheese and plain crisps.

Weighing in on the skirt issue - I personally find them too draughty in winter. I know you can layer up with thermals and leggings and tights and such, but I'm a small, round person to start with, and after all those additions I feel like the Michelin man's portly girlfriend, so I stick with trousers and a nice long coat.

Also, Sungura's hat in her avatar looks very cozy. I love hats. :D
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Postby Jessica » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:29 pm UTC

Agreed about cute hat.

I've found that A stick of deodorant (or antiperspirant) run along the inside of my legs does wonders for the not rubbing part. It's just... well annoying to remember to rub my deodorant along my legs, and kind of feels weird... and I often have to reapply during the day...

I should find some tights or something... I don't have many skirts, and I rarely wear them, which is why there aren't many photos of me in them. That, and jeans are just comfy and easy... Sigh. Just another thing I have to work on if I want to be more feminine...
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Postby Cassi » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:38 pm UTC

I've been wearing skirts more often recently because I am at the giving up point with jeans. Need to just buy more skirts instead, because they're a lot easier to find in my size that actually properly fit. Also I've been wearing wellies a lot, and because they only just fit around my leg, it's a lot more comfortable to be wearing leggings than trying to shove my jeans in them. I'm waiting until after Christmas, because I should be getting some money/gift cards, and can go on a hunt for jeans and skirts then. I also need some more leggings, since I only have one pair and have been wearing them a lot...

Also a bit annoyed at the moment because Shark Week is dragging itself out a bit...I knew this was part of what I could expect with the IUD, and I think it's just the timing that's really annoying me. It has been really heavy and longer, but not incredibly painful, so it is something I can deal with. Especially because my natural cycle is longer than it was when I was on the pill, so I have to deal with it less often...will have to see how it goes the next couple of months still though.
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Postby hum » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:46 pm UTC

I have the same problem with skirts. In 18 years I think I wore skirts 5 times, maybe less.

But since I went to college and because of a tradition here in Portugal I had to wear skirts every day for maybe 2 months. At first it was dificult, but now it's like to wear jeans. I don't mind them at all.

For me the most eficient way is to use tights, but I used them one size above mine. It feels better and last longer.
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Postby Jessica » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:51 pm UTC

I just got myself a new pair of boots!

These ones to be exact.
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Postby TaintedDeity » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:01 pm UTC

I like those a lot.
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Postby PictureSarah » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:11 pm UTC

Seconding what everyone's said about tights. I get a rash when I wear a skirt with nothing underneath, so even in the summer I tend to wear a pair of bike shorts, or Spanx "power panties" or similar. Basically, anything from http://www.spanx.com/family/index.jsp?c ... cp=2992553 will work to reduce thigh rubbing, and serves the added purpose of smoothing out any bulges I might have going on. In the winter I usually wear tights. I like the thick opaque kind. I even have a pair that are like sweaters for my legs. I do not have an appreciation for nude pantyhose, I'm afraid.
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Postby Sungura » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:52 pm UTC

Thanks for the hat appreciation. Crocheted it myself from 100% French Angora and Satin Angora yarn. : ) It is as fuzzy and warm as it looks.

Nice boots, Jessica! And I never thought of deodorant...interesting...

I am of the opinion too that skirts are just as easy to wear as jeans. I have a hard time finding jeans that fit right (I have hips, tyvm, and yes my thighs are big) and past two years as jeans are made smaller and smaller and skinnier and skinnier I just have an awful time. They either fit at the waist but no way can I get them up to my waist, or they want to fall off and are horribly gapping at the waist because that's the size I needed to get over my hips.

Skirts on the other hand...gee I swear I look 15 pounds lighter in them, they fit nice, are pretty and flowy... <3 skirts. Only time I don't love them is when I am doing yardwork, cleaning rabbit cages, or practising karate. Other times, I love them. Also, best skirts ever I find are at Coldwater Creek, I know it's a more expensive place, but the skirts last, and are made well, and I wait until clearance rack + 25% off. I usually pay $15-$30 for a skirt. I'd be paying that much or more for jeans.
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Postby Jessica » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:53 pm UTC

Hmmm weird.
I'm like the exact opposite. Jeans have always been easy for me to find. Like I can walk into any Old Navy, pick up any pair of Short 16 jeans, and they fit. Usually when I try and find skirts, they're really hard to find some that fit well, or properly, or where they're suppose to go on my body, since I have little to no waist or hip...
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Postby Ashlah » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:09 pm UTC

Sungura wrote:I am of the opinion too that skirts are just as easy to wear as jeans. I have a hard time finding jeans that fit right (I have hips, tyvm, and yes my thighs are big) and past two years as jeans are made smaller and smaller and skinnier and skinnier I just have an awful time. They either fit at the waist but no way can I get them up to my waist, or they want to fall off and are horribly gapping at the waist because that's the size I needed to get over my hips.

I usually have that problem with jeans in juniors sizes. They usually fit better in the misses department, but then there's the issue of actually finding nice looking jeans there. The style I want is in juniors, but the size is in misses. Sometimes it's best for me to get the juniors ones that gap at the waist and wear a belt.

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Postby Cassi » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:25 pm UTC

I am pretty much constantly on the lookout for jeans that fit, because I just never have enough. I did for a couple of months recently, but then a couple pairs developed rather inconvenient holes. So I really just need to keep buying them whenever I find some that fit, until I reach the point I have too many. Which is unlikely to happen. Somehow out of the 3 mostly wearable pairs of jeans that mostly fit I have at the moment, 2 pairs are over 5 years old, and one pair is under a year old. And the best fitting pair out of the three is developing a hole ever so slightly too high on the inside of one thigh.

I came to the conclusion a while ago that the bottom half of my body just doesn't fit whatever manufacturers think it should. I am thin-ish, and don't particularly have hips, but I have long muscular legs. Finding jeans that are long enough and fit around my thigh without gaping at the hips is pretty difficult. So if I ever see a pair of jeans I like, I try them on. If they fit, I buy them. If I ever start finding jeans I like and that fit every time I go shopping, I'll stop this habit, but I don't think there's any risk of that happening anytime soon...so yea, after Christmas, I might start focusing more on skirts instead anyway. Especially because my favourite denim skirt is falling to pieces, and seeing as it's about 6 years old now, probably is due to be replaced...
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Postby existential_elevator » Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:34 pm UTC

Funny enough, when hipster/bootleg style trousers are in fashion, I have no problem finding things that fit. But.. now skinnyfit/drainpipes are in fashion, nothing in the world fits me properly. Usually it either falls off, or it's far to tight on my stomach. Also, despite my size, I've got back :P skinny jeans do nothing to flatter that.

Jessica, I recommend playing around in changing rooms with different styles of skirt. Even pick up a few that you're not sure are nice on the hanger. You probably want something in a non-clingy material, which is meant to fit at the waist rather than the hip.

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Postby Bin » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:43 pm UTC

I am 5'3", and all of my "height" is in my torso. I have a very long waist, and consequently very short legs. I have a small waist and a very large bum, so if I find jeans big enough for my bum, they aren't anywhere close to small enough at my waist, and I always have to hem them for length. I generally wear slacks, leggings or skirts most of the time (though I like to flop rather than sit properly, so I tend to always wear something beneath the skirts). I have found a few designers who occasionally carry a jean that works for me, one of which is Simply Vera by Vera Wang. All her clothes are on the large side (constructed for very tall people, it seems to me) so be sure to buy small, but her stuff is high quality, lower price, and in general fits very well (other than the hem). It may be purchased online for convenience.

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Postby Sungura » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:58 pm UTC

Oh yeah, I NEVER fit into junior's stuff. Ever. Bottoms or tops. I always had hips, always had a chest.
For a while, I figured out the trick was I have a short torso but normal legs so getting long petites fit pretty well. Now that the style has changed to the skinny stuff and everything seems to be cut thinner, nothing works right. *sigh*
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Postby Bin » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:10 pm UTC

I know what you mean, the skinny jeans have no space for bums, and they go straight up, no cinch. If I want the "skinny" style, I go for black, thicker leggings, generally with a decorative seam so it doesn't look like I'm straight out of the 80s. They are warm and very comfy. However, if you go designer rather than generic clothing store, you'll find much less "skinny" pants and a lot more boot cut or sailor leg. I like straight or boot cut, in general. It seems like they flatter everyone.

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Postby Sungura » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:40 pm UTC

I'm a fan of the "relaxed boot cut" sort of style. Something that is mostly straight but does have some shape, basically. I don't like it when it hugs my thighs tight and then flairs some at the knees, I like it loose up top. If that makes sense.
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Postby Bin » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:46 pm UTC

I agree. I like my hours glass shape, but not when it's on my legs. ;)

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Postby kellsbells » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:52 pm UTC

I admit I kind of enjoy skinny jeans. Particularly because I can wear boots over them, and that makes me look (or maybe just feel) taller. However, like Jessica and a few others, I'm trying to start wearing skirts and dresses more, because I think they're lovely. The problem is just always that I feel like I'm overdressed or trying too hard when I do. College has lowered my expectations of what "dressed up" means to pretty much anything besides jeans.
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This is pretty much my advice on every kind of clothing. Just grab a lot of it and try different ones on until you find something nice. This is how I ended up discovering that some skinny jeans actually did suit me.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Osha » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:25 pm UTC

I always just resort to wearing a belt with my jeans so they stay up above my underwear (I only have like 2 pairs of panties and wear mens briefs most of the time just because I have a ton of them)

I really like skirts (and don't really have trouble finding ones that fit), but I was too nervous to wear them up 'till it got too cold to wear them. As soon as it gets warm and sunny again I'm wearing my bright orange short poofy skirt to school (It uh, definitely stands out, but I love it!).

Sometime before next semester starts I'm gonna go down to a thriftstore and buy tons of clothes. Then go down to a different store and buy a couple dozen socks and panties.

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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby natraj » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:44 pm UTC

Jessica wrote:That, and jeans are just comfy and easy... Sigh. Just another thing I have to work on if I want to be more feminine...


I just want to say, if you want to get skirts because you like skirts, that is awesome and I'm sure (judging, at least, by the pictures you've posted in dresses!) they'll look absolutely lovely, but if you want to get them because they're more feminine, I think you can still look plenty feminine in lots of styles of pants -- especially if that's what you're more comfortable with! :) Cuz being comfortable with what you are wearing is I think always a big part of wearing it well.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Jessica » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:48 pm UTC

It's more a mix of the two. I like the look of skirts, and I especially like some of the more retro styles, because they work for me. I also like looking feminine.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby podbaydoor » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:28 am UTC

I...I was very very gleeful the day I found out I fit perfectly into size 1 jeans at Old Navy so I just buy those now and I never have problems with jeans anymore...
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Jessica » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:56 pm UTC

yay!! Welcome to the "I'm within old navy sizes" club :)
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Sungura » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:47 pm UTC

Old navy actually carries stuff for non-stick with-hips people? My vauge memory from 9th grade when I went there once was that everything was like a juniors style and hence never fit me.
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Re: [SAFESPACE] Woman Thread - #sharkweek on irc.foonetic.net

Postby Cassi » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:36 pm UTC

I used to really like Old Navy for most things, but don't think I ever had much luck with their jeans. But it's been a rather long time since I've been in one, so I could be completely misremembering...I just know I don't have any Old Navy jeans now, and I haven't destroyed any recently, which suggests I've never had any...
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