Given the normal vector to an m-plane in R

^{n}(n > m), is there any efficient method to find lattice points (ie: points with integer coordinates) on that plane?

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Hi everybody!

Given the normal vector to an m-plane in R^{n} (n > m), is there any efficient method to find lattice points (ie: points with integer coordinates) on that plane?

Given the normal vector to an m-plane in R

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Is this homework? Regardless, I'll throw out what I've thought up really quickly.

So you have a normal vector, n. From this you can define a plane by finding vectors orthogonal to n (and to each other). These m vectors form a basis. Call them b_1, b_2, ..., b_m.

So, any point on the plane can be written as a combination of the basis vectors. Thus, the point (1,0,0,...,0) on the plane can be written as 1/||b_1||*b_1+0*b_2+...+0*b_m. You can proceed with this process for each basis vector, and then it seems as though you can generate integer coordinates from this operation.

Edit: I'm not sure if you want to find points on the plane that correspond to integer coordinates in R^n, or find coordinates in R^n that correspond to integer points on the plane. Either way, it seems like essentially the same process, but I've only given it about 90 seconds worth of thought, so I might be missing something critical.

So you have a normal vector, n. From this you can define a plane by finding vectors orthogonal to n (and to each other). These m vectors form a basis. Call them b_1, b_2, ..., b_m.

So, any point on the plane can be written as a combination of the basis vectors. Thus, the point (1,0,0,...,0) on the plane can be written as 1/||b_1||*b_1+0*b_2+...+0*b_m. You can proceed with this process for each basis vector, and then it seems as though you can generate integer coordinates from this operation.

Edit: I'm not sure if you want to find points on the plane that correspond to integer coordinates in R^n, or find coordinates in R^n that correspond to integer points on the plane. Either way, it seems like essentially the same process, but I've only given it about 90 seconds worth of thought, so I might be missing something critical.

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Giallo wrote:Hi everybody!

Given the normal vector to an m-plane in R^{n}(n > m), is there any efficient method to find lattice points (ie: points with integer coordinates) on that plane?

Unless n = m+1, you're going to want more than one normal vector. If you look at { v | v.w = 0} you have an n-1 dimensional vector space. You need n-m linearly independent normal vectors to specify a single subspace.

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Giallo wrote:Hi everybody!

Given the normal vector to an m-plane in R^{n}(n > m), is there any efficient method to find lattice points (ie: points with integer coordinates) on that plane?

Yes. Google for "linear diophantine equations in three variables". Dr. Math has a good explanation.

It's not homework; @jestingrabbit: you're right, stupid me

Anyway this comes out from the following problem (*): given the equation

[math]\prod_{k = 1}^n a_k^{x_k} = 1[/math]

with a_{k}'s algebraic find a solution where x_{k}'s are in Z.

Taking the logarithm we find the equation:

[math]\sum_{k = 1}^n x_k\log(a_k) = 0[/math]

which corresponds to find the lattice points of the (n-1) dimensional plane with normal vector (a_{1}, ... , a_{n}) in R^{n}.

Only a friend of mine told me that (*) should have an optimal solution which is something like O(2^{n}), and I wanted to check

Anyway this comes out from the following problem (*): given the equation

[math]\prod_{k = 1}^n a_k^{x_k} = 1[/math]

with a

Taking the logarithm we find the equation:

[math]\sum_{k = 1}^n x_k\log(a_k) = 0[/math]

which corresponds to find the lattice points of the (n-1) dimensional plane with normal vector (a

Only a friend of mine told me that (*) should have an optimal solution which is something like O(2

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