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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:28 pm UTC

You move TDown (this is the East floor)

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You move TDown (this is the East floor)

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You redefine directions.

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You move TFor (this is the West wall)

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:40 pm UTC

Go TBack. Observe.
Push pink cube button. observe. Push pink cube button. Observe.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:47 pm UTC

You move TBack (this is the East wall)

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You push the pink cube's button. You see yourself floating in the room, this allows you to be able to reach the ceiling, but only briefly, as what you defined as gravity soon returns and pulls you back to the floor.

You push the pink cube's button. You see yourself floating in the room, this allows you to be able to reach the ceiling, but only briefly, as what you defined as gravity soon returns and pulls you back to the floor.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:51 pm UTC

The TFor wall did not change?

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:54 pm UTC

You notice that the room looks identical to how it was before you entered the TFor wall two rooms ago, including direction equivalence.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:56 pm UTC

TBack, observe

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:05 am UTC

You move TBack (this is the east wall)

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:55 am UTC

TFor, observe

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:35 am UTC

You move TFor (this is the west wall)

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:31 pm UTC

what. I kind of expected this, but...

TBack, observe.

EDIT; I thought originally Room 1 had only ceiling and floor exits?

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:09 pm UTC

You move TBack (this is the east wall)

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You remember that the first time that you appeared on room 1 you didn't look around, so you didn't see whether the walls had holes or not.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:34 am UTC

TFor, observe, TFor, observe.
TFor, observe.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:55 pm UTC

You move TFor (this is the west wall)

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You move TFor (this is the west wall)

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You move TFor (this is the west wall)

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby tomtom2357 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:33 am UTC

*bump*
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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby patzer » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:40 am UTC

I lost track of this, what is the current theory about the layout of the rooms?
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands. –Douglas Adams

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:03 am UTC

The rooms are organized in 3x3x3. Room 1 is in the center, and has all black walls and ceilings and is very important and weird.

All of the "corners", have buttons on the outside walls. Those walls connect to each other.

All of the "edge" cuboids end up in the directly opposite cuboid. I think. They are empty.

The "face" cuboida are weird. I'll seperate them into horizonal ones and vertical (2,4) ones.

You jnow how the vertical ones work. Actually, I'm not sure.. someone test this later.

The horizontal ones... if you move away from room 1, you end up in the opposite horizontal cuboid with room one in the same position relatve to you.

The corner buttons do something, probably rotate the cube.

Each corner has an object or a key. We hace the reachable ones. I think we can reach the lther ones.

[b]TDow

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:05 am UTC

TBack, observe, observe the dimensions of the room (yards, feet, inches as given earlier), including, but not limited to, whether or not it is cubical, the number of vertices, edges and faces and their positions and configurations.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby DenisL704 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:27 am UTC

Challenge assumptions:
-you are a human and you are alive: check for heartbeat, attempt to stop breathing, attempt to smash head into a wall as hear as you can.
-check if you feel hungry
-attempt to urinate (could be useful to mark rooms)

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:21 am UTC

You move TDown.

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You move TBack.

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You redefine directions.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:33 am UTC

You observe the dimensions of the room, you notice each wall is 4 feet tall and 4 feet wide, and the floor and ceiling have a length of 4 feet in each side. You notice it's cubical. There are 8 vertices, one on every corner on the ceiling, and one on every corner of the floor. There are 12 edges, 4 between the ceiling and the walls, 4 between the floor and the walls, and 4 between one wall and another. There are 6 faces, 4 walls, a ceiling, and a floor.

There's a face at TFor, one at TBack, one at TLeft, one at TRight, one at TDown and one at TUp.

Additionally, there's a hole in each wall, ceiling and floor, which has a length of 1 foot, and is equidistant from each edge by 1.5 feet. They are in the center of each face.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:19 pm UTC

a) that was odd
b) i did not man to do that, but it was nice that it happened.

TDown, observe, TDown, observe, observ dmensins

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:56 pm UTC

DenisL704 wrote:Challenge assumptions:
-you are a human and you are alive: check for heartbeat, attempt to stop breathing, attempt to smash head into a wall as hear as you can.
-check if you feel hungry
-attempt to urinate (could be useful to mark rooms)


You check your heartbeat, it was no effect.

You attempt to stop breathing, it has no effect.

You smash your head as hard as you can against the TFor wall, it has no effect. You aren't hurt.

You aren't hungry.

You attempt to urinate, it has no effect.

You move TDown

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You redefine directions

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You move TDown

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You observe the dimensions. They're just like in Room 2.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:59 pm UTC

TFor, observe

TDown, observe, TDown, observe, TBack, observe

(prediction: the room I end up in at the end is either room 4 or room 2 (i think room 4), and the black is on the ceiling.)

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:45 pm UTC

You move TFor.

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You move TDown

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You Move TDown

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You move TBack

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You redefine directions.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:29 am UTC

Assume that after every Taction there is an observe.

TDown, TFor, TFor, TBack, TDown, TDown.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:13 am UTC

You move TDown

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You move TFor

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You move TFor

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You move TBack

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You move TDown

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You move TDown

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You redefine directions

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:30 pm UTC

Use the button on the light-red cube, and try to go TUp.

Prediction: This works, and I end up in Room 2.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:17 pm UTC

You press the button on the light-red cube, it allows you to float on the room high enough that you manage to grab the hole on the ceiling and push yourself into the room in TUp.

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You redefine directions.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Uristqwerty » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:15 am UTC

Reading through the rooms so far, I think I understand how this works well enough to solve it. However, that would ruin any fun other people might have while trying to figure it out themselves...

Something I'm a bit less sure about, weren't there some objects near the roof of room 10, and some of the connected rooms? If so, I suggest going W,D,S (or TBack,TDown,TRight (or Room 2 -> Room 5 -> Room 6 -> Room 10, based on some of the early exploration, and assuming that the connections between rooms remain unchanged. Since a button was pressed, the rooms might be different, but going in the same directions could still lead to a wall-button room), and seeing if the antigravity button makes it possible to reach them. I suspect (but have no way to be certain) that there is a pair of them for each of the 4 object buttons (though which pair of objects has what button seems to be decided when it is first used), and if I am interpreting their symbols correctly, one of them is an accurate compass (which would allow the use of a sane direction system, even when G<->AG changes), and one of them might write on the walls, to make it easier to navigate. If that is what they do, either (or both) would be fairly useful.

But I don't want to interrupt the current exploration, so the directions mentioned above are more sharing an idea with other people, and not intended to be followed.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:23 am UTC

Yeah, I was going to do that.

Might as well do that now.

TDown, TLeft, TFor, Use light-red cube and get the object, TLeft, use light-red cube and get the object, TFor, use light-red cube and get the object, TRight, use light-red cube and get the object, TRight, TFor, TDown.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby dudiobugtron » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:27 am UTC

Uristqwerty wrote:Reading through the rooms so far, I think I understand how this works well enough to solve it. However, that would ruin any fun other people might have while trying to figure it out themselves...

It certainly wouldn't ruin the fun for me!
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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby tomtom2357 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:31 am UTC

I'm completely confused. I think the only contribution I will make is the one I already made, guessing that it was a rubiks cube.
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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:17 am UTC

You move TDown

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You redefine directions

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You move TLeft

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You move TFor

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You press the button on the light-red cube, allowing you to float and pick up the object in the corner.

You move TLeft

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You press the button on the light-red cube, allowing you to float and pick up the object in the corner.

You move TFor

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You press the button on the light-red cube, allowing you to float and pick up the object in the corner.

You move TRight

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You press the button on the light-red cube, allowing you to float and pick up the object in the corner.

You move TRight

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You move TFor

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You redefine directions

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You move TDown

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:37 pm UTC

observe inventory
combine stuff with the same color
observe the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:58 am UTC

You observe you inventory. You see that you have a light red cube with one button, a light green cube with three buttons, a cube which has a color that is between blue and white with an opening, a cube that has a color that is between yellow and white with an opening, a key of the color of the third cube, and a key of the color of the fourth cube.

You insert the light-blue key into the light-blue cube. Three buttons appear on it.

You insert the light-yellow key into the light-yellow cube. Three buttons appear on it.

Then, the walls around you turn on and start emitting colored light, the TUp Ceiling which is East becomes red, the TDown floor which is West turns orange, the TFor wall which is up turns blue, the TBack wall which is down turns green, the TRight wall which is north turns yellow, and the TLeft wall which is south turns Teal.

You redefine the room that is all black as Room 1a and redefine this as Room 1b.

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You don't recall seeing the meaning of life, the universe, and everything in any of the rooms you've been in.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby orangedragonfire » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:10 am UTC

Move TDown. Move TDown.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:03 pm UTC

You move TDown

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You move TDown

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Elmach » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:52 pm UTC

Are rooms 29 and 30 new rooms?

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby orangedragonfire » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:20 am UTC

I don't think they are; I think all rooms just changed colour. But since they look completely different now, we have no way to tell which rooms they were originally.

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Re: Challenge Your Assumptions Level 2: Electric Boogaloo

Postby Vytron » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:38 am UTC

You wonder whether rooms 29 and 30 are new rooms.

You move TDown.

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You move TDown.

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