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by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:29 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Touche. I forgot I would know that she's a tracker.

I wouldn't have known they had targeted me though.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:20 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Would have been risky, since I didn't know who Madge targeted.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:11 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Interesting. So you think Madge is lying too?
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:53 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

I do have the word enemy in my pm.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:42 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Yes. I thought I had already made that clear.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:31 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

If you want.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:16 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

OH AND ONE MORE THING I think the cop result, given it's probably a non-scum result or GoP would have been claiming at the start of the Day to lead the lynch, is better to claim right away - don't see any advantage in GoP withholding his result since you can't catch someone in a lie with a cop resu...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:24 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

I am not revealing who I copped last night yet. I hope you plan to do this before night. Sabrar, I still think you are probably town. But blindly following you...it reeks. If I were scum, I would have killed you off by now (well, twice). Let's go into that huge wifom territory tomorrow if we're bot...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1880368

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare III:
Spoiler:
Supernatural scum have played this to perfection. Gotten town to remove the other team, and now we are all at each others throats, with no one the wiser.
I can't believe Laserguy would make that falseclaim as scum....its soo obvious. Unless it was a ploy by Sabrar and Laserguy?
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:15 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Kalira, I wasn't reading Laserguy as particularly scummy at the time. I was reading Bard as scummy. There is also the fact that if Bard was scum, we couldn't believe what he was saying. While it would have been a (maybe) good move in retrospect, it was still a very risky move at the time. I'll go ne...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:29 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

I don't know why everyone is trusting Sabrar's list.

Frankly, I'd like kalira to say something before any claims are made.

I'd like Sabrar to claim ASAP after Laserguy. Don't particularly care if its after me or not.

You are all trusting him too much.
by Gopher of Pern
Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

I've been debating about this since the start of the day, and I've come to the conclusion that it's probably a good idea: I think the inventor should claim their role and who they gave stuff to and why they gave stuff to them. Don't claim what you gave to who, as that would probably help scum more ...
by Gopher of Pern
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:41 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

You look too deeply into things, and are seeing things that are not there.
by Gopher of Pern
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:24 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

So you really thought I was defending Laserguy with that comment? Wow....

It was not meant as a strong attack. Just opening up the discussion. And you took it completely out of context, which is something you like to do when you're scum.
by Gopher of Pern
Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:48 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

I was attacking kalira. Yes, that would mean I'm defending Laserguy, but only by inference. You ignored the whole part about me attacking kalira. Why?
by Gopher of Pern
Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:20 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Maybe I haven't decided who I want to lynch yet? I haven't looked too closely into Laserguy yet. I had a good feeling about them in day2, and ignored them yesterday in favour of a Bard lynch, so I've yet to address that. It was just the point kalira made yesterday, which stood out to me, as it was a...
by Gopher of Pern
Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:00 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Yes, the focus yesterday was on the claims around bessie, and Bard being scummy. But still, people had SDK in a probably ok, maybe towny indy basket, whereas you have mostly been in the towny basket. In any case, I only buy your first reason. Please explain your other two reasons? Pft, they would ha...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:31 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1880368

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare III:
Spoiler:
Need to survive til tomorrow. I'll know scum for sure then.
I really hope Madge is not godfather. If she is, I'm going to be so misled, and probably lose us the game.
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:29 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Well, I thought it more likely Bard was supernatural, but this was better. So, either we have wiped out the guild, or there was a successful doctoring. Just putting together some thoughts here: If Sabrar is correct regarding the setup: We have 3 dead from one faction (goon/roleblocker/unroleblockabl...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:35 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Two Rooms, One Boom, and a Bang (RESULTS)
Replies: 37
Views: 3241

Re: Two Rooms, One Boom, and a Bang (sign-up v2)

I'd sign up if it was a week or more later.
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:48 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Two Rooms, One Boom, and a Bang (RESULTS)
Replies: 37
Views: 3241

Re: Two Rooms, One Boom, and a Bang (sign-up v2)

Sign-ups: 1. Madge (low activity until 6pm on the 14th (GMT+8) - bump me to reserves if this is an issue) 2. Heuristically_alone 3. mpolo 4. #HBC | YOLOSWAG 5. BoomFrog 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. ... Reserves: 1. Gopher of Pern 2. 3. --------------------------------- I will be travelling overseas from the...
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:53 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Kalira, did you not see the discussion yesterday re: bessie and SDK? That was my argument. However, it is different today: We lynch Laserguy, Laserguy is scum, Bard is scum and is potentially dead as well (depending on if they were telling the truth.) We lynch Bard, Bard is scum, we get little infor...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:26 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

So, Laserguy, you don't believe that the tell Madge gave to being town is genuine?
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:25 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

So, upon rereading dimochka, the first thing that stands out is this: -town- Sabrar Bessie Boomfrog Bard -neutral- Freezeblade / Kalira SirG Madge [this is mostly a placeholder, D2 I'll look at her more closely] GoP LaserGuy [possibly lower, depending on Bard's post] -scummy- Znirk [interchageable w...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:53 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Yeah, everyone sleeps when I'm most active.

Been a bit busy today, but I'll get an analysis on Madge and dimochka up soon.
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 11:28 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1880368

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare III: Just had a thought: If Bard is telling the truth, and they are both scum, it may be incredibly advantageous to lynch Laserguy, too remove both of them in one go. How likely is it that's the case? I don't know. I think if I get two votes on me I'm going to claim, and try ...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 11:26 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

dimochka posts! Read of GoP feels kind of incomplete. Most of what dimochka mentions about GoP is basically D1 content. Doesn't really talk much about anything Gopher has done since. Read of Madge looks fine. He's promised more content. Hope he delivers, as he does have a tendency to make these sor...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 7:09 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Just quickly, I don't think Sabrar really defended you well. Their defence of you is simply 'I don't think so.' Don't know why I bother with this but I pointed out a mistake that plytho made and made SDK realize that one of his train of thoughts was incorrect and pointed more towards town!Madge tha...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 6:50 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Sabrar - not piling on me and defending me really well so FMPOV pretty dang townie since if they were scum it'd be a great way to get townie lynched , but probably nobody else should trust this read, UNTIL MY UNTIMELY DEATH (note: not planning on dying soon, scum feel free to kill me i guess?? or n...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 2:28 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

It wasn't because of her night chat. D2 she was intentionally acting scummy, hoping that would result in more suspicion on SDK and force him to full claim. Even when she intentionally tries to act scummy, people still read her as town. I am amused :D To be fair, she did have SDK on her side. That's...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 12:32 am UTC
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Board games anyone?
Replies: 874
Views: 184149

Re: Board games anyone?

Playing through Seafall at the moment (played 5 games.) You will need to consult the internet at times. It is very different from Pandemic legacy, as it is a competitive game, but I still think it plays well. One player was falling behind early, but then made a big comeback in one game. It can be a ...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed May 31, 2017 12:21 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

I must have thought something was up with bessie due to her having night chat. Where did you state this previously? @Gopher, can you answer this? I didn't state this. I thought something was up with bessie. It must have been because she had night chat. She changed a bit from D1 to D2, and I picked ...
by Gopher of Pern
Tue May 30, 2017 6:59 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Gun to my head my most likely scum-configuration is {Bard, LaserGuy} as supernatural team and {plytho} as the remaining Guild-member, however I am worried about the redacted name in YOLOSWAG's role-pm. Also I decided that SDK's claim is most likely be true based (again) on meta-reasons. What do you...
by Gopher of Pern
Tue May 30, 2017 4:49 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Nothing from Dimochka so far today.
by Gopher of Pern
Tue May 30, 2017 12:17 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act II is going to need some adjustments

Quite a few things to cover. Assume Bard is scum. He defends LaserGuy at a time when a) the latter is not close to getting lynched - though several people found him scummy and the wagon could have turned against him - and b) there is a good lurker-lynch available in DethStalker. I disagree with this...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon May 29, 2017 10:14 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Well, I'm surprised that Boomfrog is dead, and their role. Less so about bessie. I must have thought something was up with bessie due to her having night chat. It was just mason chat. However, she did say explicitly that she didn't know if SDK was town, which contradicts her role pm. So, if SDK isn...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon May 29, 2017 9:13 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Well, I'm surprised that Boomfrog is dead, and their role. Less so about bessie. I must have thought something was up with bessie due to her having night chat. It was just mason chat. However, she did say explicitly that she didn't know if SDK was town, which contradicts her role pm. So, if SDK isn...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon May 29, 2017 7:40 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

I was more interested in your reasons for SirG than for changing, but I see you had them as scummy D1. I've still to do my bigger look into SirG. To Sabrar re: lynching bessie / SDK (even though it's all moot now) Yes, but you have still failed to demonstrate why lynching SDK is better than lynching...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon May 29, 2017 7:23 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act II is going to need some adjustments

Boomfrog, if only you'd explained yourself. You have three secret town club members? Gah. Plus, you were totally wrong about YOLO being supernatural, even if they were scum. I just can't get a good read. Pretty sure BoomFrog was reading YOLO correctly as Guild . Umm, yes, I think? He said the secon...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon May 29, 2017 1:01 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 42240

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act III opens in chaos

Quick post before work: I targeted someone other than SDK but I got no useful result. So I'm still pretty useless right now. Let's hope things improve. More later. That last post before day end was a doozy though. I was thinking if we could analyse the two "target" lists that got posted b...

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