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LaserGuy

BoomFrog wrote:The very next read I want to see is from LaserGuy. He had very pointedly avoided drawing any conclusions.

When a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that four of his fingers are pointing at himself.

LaserGuy

I think there's only two plausible scenarios: 1) Vicarin is Town, scum tried to shoot him and but he was protected. 2) Vicarin is scum, scum deliberately withheld to fake scenario 1. The third scenario involves Vic being roleblocked and scum hunting for a potential doctor, or scum faking the same a...

LaserGuy

Pretty sure that Jimbob usually gives safe claims, and if that's the case then I think Bessie and Vicarin both would be town. I don't see how scum having safe claims would imply both are Town. Note also that Vicarin is claiming a mafia result on bessie, which makes it much more difficult for both t...

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does it make sense for town and scum to each have one? Since the randomization of alignments occured after the assignment of powers, this would require a setup that would allow scum to control two roleblocks. It's not impossible, but I wouldn't bet on that having been the setup. I don't think this ...

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Should my feelings be hurt that you automatically assumed Vicarin would be telling the truth, and not that he was alive because he was mafia? :( I generally believe claims unless I have a compelling reason not to. I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a situation with a strong fake claim on D1. Have...

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Hmm... I was roleblocked last night so given Vic was alive I was expecting him to have a result. This is not so clear.

@bessie, can you claim flavor? I'm assuming you targeted Boom?

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Have reason to believe that claim is probably true.

Vote: bessie

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That average income does not much resemble that of the US's, though. I based it on the actual income distribution in the United States. I was lazy and overshot a little bit, but the change is pretty negligible. The highest quintile in the United States has 59% of the income. My distribution used 62...

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Why is moody Town? Why is BoomFrog? I'm seeing moody as mostly town at the moment because of the 5 person pileup he recently had on him, and I think he wouldn't be in this situation without scum trying significantly to push it along (I guess he could be an indie and accidentally drew attention?). T...

LaserGuy

@LaserGuy: basically everyone who isn't bessie, and I'm trying to get people to vote for bessie, because she's scum. I'm not sure how that wasn't obvious from what we were arguing about originally. Because you were voting for Mark until just recently. I'm not sure why you think you were going to co...

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@Vic: Can you give an ordered town-scum list? I don't need reasons at the moment since time is short, just a straight list is fine. . I'm mainly trying to convince other people. If they have specific issues with my argument, I'll look at it closely, because trying to get other town to vote against s...

LaserGuy

[And if BoomFrog honestly truely believed you were indie at the time he made his bottom three list, I will consider it his application for the position of “bessie’s D2 tunnel”. I’m wondering if he already figured that out, since he went back in to character. I was going to provide immediate transla...

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I've always been a little confused at the existence of for profit journals.You'd think that universities themselves would have cornered that market, what with having direct access to most every researcher alive. Status. If you publish in the first rank journals, your status is higher. The perpetuat...

LaserGuy

mpolo wrote:I have a certain suspicion that I may be playing a miller here.

Is there a way you can you give a flavor reason for this without going into too much detail about your role?

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You aren't in my scum pool, btw

Lynch pool, that is.

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Is not I don't care. I phrased it badly. Basically wanted to know if anything had updated your views since nothing had apparently. Well, it had only been a day or so, ~2 pages, between my reads and when you asked me about this (during which moody/Madge had barely/not posted), so I am not sure why y...

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My bottom three are Madge, moody, and Vic. Any more detail you would.like to share? Here are my reads on all three players. What additional details would you like to know? Basically I'm feeling your less engaged in this game than normal and am trying to work out if it is alignment indicative. That ...

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That post pings vaguely Town to me.

LaserGuy

My bottom three are Madge, moody, and Vic. Any more detail you would.like to share? Here are my reads on all three players. What additional details would you like to know? moody7277 : Kind of active lurky. Seems to be throwing a lot of shade at people without really backing it up. Leaning scum. Mad...

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My bottom three are Madge, moody, and Vic.

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Sorry, what's the alternative assuming libertarians also believe in morality?

LaserGuy

So, for the US, the average income* is $39kish, so a 50% solution ends up being 19.5k/yr, and the distribution you propose is roughly a 27% solution. Ballpark, almost 10k allowance is what it'd translate to in US terms. I'm not sure that 10k/yr is actually a basic income given that full time minimu...

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Someone with better knowledge of the math can probably explain this better, but my understanding is that this kind of problem ill-posed. You can't perform an infinite number of steps because the number of operations you need to perform is unbound. I think the best you can say is that the balls are s...

LaserGuy

If you wish to give everyone 27.5k/yr in basic income(half the average), you need to tax everyone an average rate of 50% in addition to the 10% for other services. Even taxed at 100%, an obviously unattainable amount, you need to tax a few of the highest earners. Feel free to construct whatever hyp...

LaserGuy

I can't really put a read on Madge d1 since she hates participating in d1. How cruel would it be to lynch her today!? Madge's content this game has been very noticeably worse than in previous games. She doesn't like D1, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't contribute at all. Normally I'd expect t...

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Request prod on Madge.

LaserGuy

Have you got any current reads lists? Can you explain the modslip? What in particular made/makes you think Mark is town? Any guesses for setup spec? Mark is putting a lot of effort into thinking about the game and figuring things out. Yea, he's made a few newbie mistakes, but I don't get any scum m...

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wam wrote:
LaserGuy wrote:Moving wam into my scum pile. Some of those reads are very alarming

Which ones?

Boom, moody, Madge, vic, bessie.

LaserGuy

Moving wam into my scum pile. Some of those reads are very alarming

LaserGuy

As I am also quite busy during the following days, it would be helpful if everybody could send in their night actions as soon as possible after day end (or even before day end if they prefer). Modslip is here for those asking about it. Implication is scum would be able to coordinate their night act...

LaserGuy

Quick reads: heuristically_alone : Town heury is charming. Scum heury is abraisive. This is Town heury. Sabrar : Low content and aggression from him is interesting. Most of what I see looks okay, but keeping an eye on him for playing outside his meta. Leaning town. BoomFrog : Roleplay is NAI for him...

LaserGuy

Also @Vic: Were you given a choice of three players as your person of interest for your secondary? If so, why did you choose wam?

LaserGuy

Vicarin wrote:LaserGuy: Been fairly quiet so far, used to having more information from him at this point. Could be him trying to shake up his meta some more. Not sure what to make of him at the moment.

You haven't asked me anything this game. What more information do you need to sort me?

LaserGuy

LaserGuy meta-gaming the mod is humourous, but also interesting how he's decided to back up heury. What do you mean by this? How am I backing up heury? D2 is probably in time to give the rest of town to make use of my flip. I just want people to keep track of the Sabrar-LG bloc that has all of a su...

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Also pretty sure jimbob modslipped scum have daychat.

LaserGuy

I actually meant maybe you're being townie rather than maybe bessie's being scummy. But goes to show I was wrong. Why are you still voting Sabrar if you think he might be town? Everyone might be town unless you know otherwise! CLAIM: I am not a cop who got a guilty result on Sabrar N0 Do you know S...

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Probably less than Americans spend now. Per capita spending on healthcare in the United States is much higher than comparable countries with socialized medicine.

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BoomFrog leaning Town. I can speak a little oracle, which helps.

Sabrar is a bit more reserved than I was expecting given his opening post and pregame GoJoe excitement. Not sure where to place that in terms of alignment yet.

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