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And to get a timeshare in Greece?

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Not handing anything at all is worse than phoning in some lazy product, that's pathological. Is it just an extreme of laziness? Is there a fear? Fear is often the worm which gnaws at the root.

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Arethra Franklin's Respect
The Damned's Jet Boy, Jet Girl
Devo's Satisfaction
Bo Diddley's Sixteen Tons
Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower

I gotta get back to this, there are actually a lot.

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http://achewood.com/index.php?date=10222001

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It's a lot like the static schwarzschild solution, just a Lorentz shifted version. I mean if you want to model the electron somehow getting from rest to that speed, you'd have a lot of splainin to do, because this is a bunch of ridiculous nonsense. But if you just want an electron to be moving at th...

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My mother had some friends who didn't want to impose a name on their kid, so just let them pick once they were three. Kiddo went with Eeyore. It seems completely reasonable, except that Eeyore was a dick.

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You mean like, will it spontaneously decay into heavier leptons?

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No it doesn't, that is a very reasonable situation, entirely within known science.

The electron would just be going very fast.

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cephalopod9 wrote:what's the way to order a "jack and coke" if I don't actually care about the brand of either of those things?

Bourbon and cola? Jack isn't technically a bourbon but close enough.
Or, if you really want to flaunt the devil-may-care attitude, go for RC and SoCo.

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Doogly, is not the reason a Buddhist thinks Buddhism a discovery and you think it an invention just that the Buddhist thinks Buddhism is true and you don’t? Oh, sure. I see what you mean, yeah. So are superstitions tenets of religion? I think a superstition is more narrow and distinct. It is an if-...

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A religion is much broader, and may include superstitions. Usually though a superstition lacks structure, and is actually highlighted by that very lack. Why is breaking a mirror seven years of bad luck? No reason it totally just is. There is no larger narrative this thing needs, this just sort of is...

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Doogly it sounds like you're drawing a line between discovery or invention based on whether the thing is true or not. Are incorrect theories of science -- let's say something like Aristotelian mechanics -- discovered or invented? How incorrect does it have to be? Did Newton discover his law of grav...

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No I mean that the historical Buddha discovers "Buddhism." Or invents it. To oversimplify, the (soon to be) Buddha discovers that certain philosophies lead him to a quieter, more peaceful life {or whatever}, and teaches this to others, thus founding the religion. The religion is invented;...

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No I mean that the historical Buddha discovers "Buddhism." Not that an individual adherent would be said to discover it now.

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Yeah Phorrest, that is heck of problematic. You could push the definition of religion onto a definition of faith, but now 1) you are ill situated to talk about the social phenomena of religion, which can often have very little to do with faith, and 2) you are now just stuck trying to articulate a de...

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Yeah if you work with a definition of religion such that Buddhism doesn't count, you've chosen a weird definition. This was popular with a lot 19th century types who thought Buddhism was Too Cool to be like a regular religion. Or with Daoism, you'd have folks try to divide it up into Philosophical D...

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Flatland barely even tries to veil that it's really about humans, just with some weird shapes as a front operation.

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The revelatory tradition is much more Abrahmic orthodox. Gnosticism, Buddhism, Daoism, you get much more discovery here.

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Oh no doubt. I was not casting aspersions.

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That is about as helpful as suggesting that Sardia use my hand.

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Yeah mayo is unacceptable. So much vinegar. The most vinegar.

I will also accept a ham in there. This is a Tante Rosie maneuver.

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Right, I just think we'd come across as evil.

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How much lime goodness am I missing by just using my hand?

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I don't think we'd be the omniscient / omnipotent deity. Maybe just like the gnostic demiurge. Yaldaboath, Saklas, Samael.

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jewish_scientist wrote:I get around the problem pointed out in the videos by saying that we do causally interact with non-physical objects.

ok but that is nuts and solves nothing

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Oh man if you find yourself in New York and are in a sufficiently choice and excellent place, you may be able to find Manhattan Special

Drink that one

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OK but what if when you scratch, you sneak a corner of finger nail up into the nostril. You know, to investigate. Then maybe you discover something! Always be on the lookout to broaden the vistas of the known.

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I think that's a perfectly reasonable position but not for the above given definition.

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That is why it is just a question of definitions. One might be sympathetic to the above position, but if you are using "A discovery is a truth that is independent of human existence" pi is not a discovery, because of the dependency going back to human modeling activity. All abstract object...

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oh snap

excellent

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I lean heavily towards invention. Ask a frisbee what pi is. That friggin guy even *is* a circle, pretty much, and it can't tell you what pi is. So something is up.

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Bitter is totally good. There is more and less bitter coffee - you can bright and acidic, or earthy and bitter, and I like it earthier. I like bitter beers (but with body to them, not like a west coast IPA.) Chinese bitter melons, which they have at the store and I should try making in my house, com...

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Very precisely, it means [A(x_1),B(x_2)] = 0 if x_1 and x_2 are space-like separated. A and B are any observable operator. [ , ] is the commutator. Quantum mechanics obeys this condition, which is why the "spooky" action at a distance should not actually be considered spooky.

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Could you write out the definitions for "invent" and "discovery" you and your friend agreed on for this discussion?

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Oh you're gonna wanna start by cloning yourself, so that you have working swap space, and then once you're good to go, you should use lasers.

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sardia wrote: Maybe don't drink booze?

There's controversy, and then there's rank nonsense.

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Oh yeah it totally works really well.

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Diadem wrote:Wait, wait. Where in any of the previous movies have force users ever been able to fling other force users around with the force?

Willow, the greatest Lucas movie.

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Changing relative momentum doesn't require magic to do, just teleporting instantly. That breaks causality.

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Except there is no first sentence there. It's just lightning strikes in two places, A thinks they're they same time, B thinks they're different time. There is no cosmic narrator keeping track of the first sentence for you.

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