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by elasto
Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 2440
Views: 250006

Re: The Darker Side of the News

Well, somewhere for them to go would be a nice add-on. Ideally, somewhere they wouldn't have to travel far to reach and wouldn't feel utterly displaced or lost being. Maybe somewhere in Syria, constructed to modern standards with sustainability and low cost of living high priorities, protected by a...
by elasto
Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:26 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 2440
Views: 250006

Re: The Darker Side of the News

The simple answer is that there is no simple answer. Maybe if we had sent in a massive intervention force after the first revolt*, when most rebels were still moderate, there might have been a chance of a decent, stable government - rather like the first couple of years after Iraq. But, even in that...
by elasto
Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:53 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Please offer a rigorous definition of 'scientific progress' that has a clear metric that can be measured. No, because you're being overly literal. My point is simply that progress is built upon prior progress, and that advances in complementary technologies do not add but multiply. As others have s...
by elasto
Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:56 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Rex Tillerson, the president and chief executive of ExxonMobil, has been officially named as Donald Trump’s choice for secretary of state. Tillerson’s confirmation hearings are likely to be a bitter and emotional struggle. He is a recipient of Moscow’s Order of Friendship, having grown close to Put...
by elasto
Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:27 pm UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: Misunderstanding basic math concepts, help please?
Replies: 319
Views: 28854

Re: Misunderstanding basic math concepts, help please?

Treatid: Definitions don't need to be absolute in some epistemological sense, they only need to be things we agree upon. This is as true of any maths you could come up with as traditional maths, as WibblyWobbly points out. While you're right to say there's no cast iron proof that maths works - given...
by elasto
Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Depends how you measure it I guess. The people of 500 years ago were no more capable of creating a self-driving car or putting a man on the moon than those of 100,000 years ago. I'm trying not to read too much into this statement, but taken as read it's an absurdly dismissive viewpoint. The advance...
by elasto
Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:01 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

The scientific method didn't exist 500 years ago, yet people will still far more advanced than primitive man. Depends how you measure it I guess. The people of 500 years ago were no more capable of creating a self-driving car or putting a man on the moon than those of 100,000 years ago. If the scie...
by elasto
Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:40 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

There is no substantive difference between human beings of today and human beings of 100,000 years ago. So why are we so much more advanced than they were? Well, the key difference I'd argue is the discovery and application of the scientific method. It has produced more advances in the last 200 year...
by elasto
Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:25 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I wouldn't mind if the electoral college wasn't based on the number of residents but the number of people actually casting votes. That might encourage states to knock it off with the voter suppression. First time I've heard that suggestion. It's a very interesting idea. As mail-in and absentee vote...
by elasto
Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:41 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I'm hoping Trump will be mostly harmless as a president, but I do worry about if there is a major terrorist attack on US soil how badly he might lash out with civil liberty violations and military payback.
by elasto
Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 977
Views: 60897

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

UK businesses will have to deal with 60m more pieces of paperwork each year if Britain leaves the customs union as it departs the EU, according to research from a group campaigning to keep trade links with the bloc after Brexit. According to Open Britain, which has support from remain MPs in the th...
by elasto
Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:45 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I'd describe those places as democracies in name only, and dictatorships in actuality. Turkey flipped from a normal democracy to a 'democracy in name only' only very recently though. And Russia did have a brief period of true democracy. It's a warning to us all to respect the process - whether it's...
by elasto
Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Russia would be a counter-example I guess? With political violence both threatened and actualised. Maybe Turkey would be a current example too?
by elasto
Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:28 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]
Replies: 977
Views: 60897

Re: British EU referendum in June [update: Leave wins 52% - 48%, politics ensue]

The British public will not accept a Brexit deal that leaves them worse off financially, a new poll suggests. In a sign that a majority of the public would be unwilling to accept an economically damaging hard Brexit, half of those who voted to leave the EU [and presumably all of those who voted to ...
by elasto
Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:19 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

That's a fair point. Any cost analysis not taking into account the entire world would be pretty tragic. I didn't mean to suggest doing it for the US alone. The problem is that voters are becoming more insular, not less. Witness Trump and "America First". I really think the only cost analy...
by elasto
Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:09 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Global warming is going to be bad, and I don't think Tyndmyr is saying otherwise. He's just saying that it will also be costly to revamp the entirety of our energy infrastructure. I don't think anyone here would dispute those two points. The question is which will be more costly? If it's as unbalan...
by elasto
Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:42 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

There's national security reasons for stopping global warming. Exactly. It's a similar argument as to why countries should be self-sufficient for food and energy despite it being more costly than relying on global trade. Except that the coming refugee crisis will be extremely costly in direct terms...
by elasto
Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:56 am UTC
Forum: Mathematics
Topic: Misunderstanding basic math concepts, help please?
Replies: 319
Views: 28854

Re: Misunderstanding basic math concepts, help please?

Treatid: Pretty sure I made this point pages ago, but all the whole of maths says is 'if x is true then y is also true'. There's no 'absolutes' anywhere there. They are a figment of your imagination. Maths doesn't even presuppose we all agree on what 'if' means or 'then' or anything else there. Ambi...
by elasto
Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Modern Family star Sofia Vergara is being, in effect, sued by two frozen embryos she conceived with the partner she split from, US media report. The embryos, named Emma and Isabella, are listed in Louisiana court documents obtained by the New York Post. She and Nick Loeb separated in 2014 and he ha...
by elasto
Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1321
Views: 160532

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

Well, maybe. But then again, why? The problem that we have, that it corrects, isn't getting the groceries to our house, it is the time that it takes to shop at a brick and mortar store. My wife picks up the groceries on the way home. And if you shop for a family, you are more likely to leave with a...
by elasto
Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:26 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1321
Views: 160532

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

I hope not. My family shops online and picks up the groceries at the curb without ever entering the store. At the curb of the store you mean? In 10-15 years most likely noone will leave the house to pick up online orders; it'll have been driven to your house or place of work by a driverless vehicle...
by elasto
Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:52 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1321
Views: 160532

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

What is Amazon Go? Amazon Go is a new kind of store with no checkout required. We created the world’s most advanced shopping technology so you never have to wait in line. With our Just Walk Out Shopping experience, simply use the Amazon Go app to enter the store, take the products you want, and go!...
by elasto
Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Racism debate split from elections thread
Replies: 56
Views: 5178

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

ucim: While I disagree with you in a few aspects (Trump's public attack on Mexicans wasn't solely in regards to them 'taking our jobs', but that 'they are rapists' - clearly pushing a whole different set of buttons) I agree with your overall conclusion. The big lesson I've taken away from the US ele...
by elasto
Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:51 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Globalisation is a big reason why we've had decades of peace between the superpowers. So long as China's middle and working classes keep growing wealthier, they are hardly going to rock the boat politically*; China's elites want a good working relationship with the US just as ours do with them. Howe...
by elasto
Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:08 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Rumor has it Trump's team had the Taiwan call planned out as a signal to be a hardliner on China. That seems too Machiavellian for someone who has shown themselves to just say and do the first thing that comes into his head. When you pair the Taiwan gaffe with the India-Pakistan one (tensions betwe...
by elasto
Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:20 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Investigatory Powers Act passes in UK, legalizes 'extreme surveillance'
Replies: 29
Views: 2465

Re: Investigatory Powers Act passes in UK, legalizes 'extreme surveillance'

VPNs are too important to business to outlaw. Even China doesn't go so far as to ban their use outright.

Personally I recommend ExpressVPN: They allow torrenting and keep no logs.
by elasto
Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:14 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

I find that implausible. I think most of them thought him racist and didn't care. Not everyone thinks not being racist is an important character trait - just like many people don't see not being sexist as an important character trait. Ditto ageist, transphobic etc. Once you get to the smaller -ist's...
by elasto
Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:59 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Yes. Trump's incompetence with diplomacy, which was obviously going to be the case given his style, is dangerous - and another strong argument for not trusting him with power. Donald Trump looked to have sparked a potentially damaging diplomatic row with China on Friday after speaking to Taiwanese p...
by elasto
Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:42 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

An app that claims to recharge phone batteries in 30 seconds has been publicly endorsed by the Fijian government, despite experts saying it defies the laws of thermodynamics. InstaCharge was launched at a lavish party in Fiji last week, and was lauded by the Fijian prime minister, Frank Bainimarama...
by elasto
Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:04 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

A better argument than "Trust is racist" is "Trump is a self-serving egotist that cannot be trusted. Again and again he has shown he doesn't actually believe what he's saying. He is a multiple bankrupt who promises to make America great again yet screws ordinary Americans to the limit...
by elasto
Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:15 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: News in brief
Replies: 141
Views: 13514

Re: News in brief

A single dose of psilocybin, the active ingredient of magic mushrooms, can lift the anxiety and depression experienced by people with advanced cancer for six months or even longer, two new studies show. Researchers involved in the two trials in the United States say the results are remarkable. The ...
by elasto
Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:02 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Thing is, if they are worth supporting now, they were worth supporting before. It should not take the threat of leaving to realize that. They do get supported. They get roads, police, fire fighters, an educated workforce etc. etc. all of which is not cheap. They also often get the wages of their wo...
by elasto
Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:29 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 13554
Views: 1577911

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Police are looking for a thief who managed to carry an 86lb bucket of gold flakes worth $1.6m off a truck in New York. Surveillance video showed the theft happened in just 20 seconds while the armoured truck was briefly unattended. The man struggled to carry the gold, taking an hour to lug his loot...
by elasto
Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:18 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Is that such a problem? If jobs in places with high unemployment (or manufacturing jobs or high-tech jobs or whatever) are better to have around than other kinds of jobs, than what's the problem with a bit of subsidy of tax breaks for them? Absolutely nothing. The problem comes when firms who had n...
by elasto
Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:16 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

The same thing is true for Brexit too of course: 1) Threaten to move abroad due to Brexit whether you actually intend to or not 2) Get some sweetheart deal from Whitehall, either overtly or under the table 3) Get praise from your workers and the wider public for your 'u-turn' 4) Government gets prai...
by elasto
Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:50 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Investigatory Powers Act passes in UK, legalizes 'extreme surveillance'
Replies: 29
Views: 2465

Re: Investigatory Powers Act passes in UK, legalizes 'extreme surveillance'

Having someone's passport makes it a whole lot easier to commit id theft.
by elasto
Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Trust isn't a binary. And advocates and detractors describe something closer to, trusted or less trusted, rather than trusted and not trusted. That's not at all how it works. Ok, so there's basically three ways for me as a third-party to establish 'truth' over something I have no first-hand knowled...
by elasto
Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:22 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

How does that not fit what I said? People you trusted told you it was true. No. People I didn't trust told me it was true. It's a totally different thing. It's no different to when a sceptic claims a fact that supports global warming, or if a creationist claims something that backs up evolution, or...
by elasto
Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:02 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 461231

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Consider how you "know" that Obama isn't a Muslim. It isn't because Obama's birth certificate is on file in Hawaii. It's because trusted sources tell you it's true. That's not how I know it. It's because all sides - Ds and Rs - agreed Obama was a Christian in Wright's congregation when th...

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