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by Trebla
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 124
Views: 33401

Re: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News

Not to derail this discussion back to AI (or maybe this belongs in the thread to remind us we're living in the future... or maybe it's already there, I should check. Nope!), Google's DeepMind performed better than all other entrants at predicting protein folding. I don't have much else to say on it....
by Trebla
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:34 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Ethics of Research
Replies: 76
Views: 5316

Re: Ethics of Research

Is it ever morally not-wrong (neutral or better) to hide ANY private knowledge that has potential benefit regardless of potential harm? Of course not, because of your addition there, "regardless of potential harm". Everything is a balance. If there are other considerations that balance th...
by Trebla
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:13 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Ethics of Research
Replies: 76
Views: 5316

Re: Ethics of Research

For the record, I am going to continue thinking a hypothetical researcher hiding the cure for AIDS is acting morally wrong to some degree (whether or not doogly wants to call it a dick move). That is pretty clearly defined damage to humanity. Perhaps the researcher is under the impression (either r...
by Trebla
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:48 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Ethics of Research
Replies: 76
Views: 5316

Re: Ethics of Research

If you are sitting next to me on a train and you do a lean away from me for a fart, so that the fart goes at me, it is a total dick move. It is not at all immoral. Really? My choice is intentionally making your life worse. How is that not immoral? Worse? Now you have an amusing anecdote to relate t...
by Trebla
Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:25 pm UTC
Forum: General
Topic: College Football Discussion
Replies: 8
Views: 4783

Re: College Football Discussion

Is college football not being talked about much this year? Maybe my memory is faulty, but in recent years I remember almost daily articles (on ESPN's site) for most major teams... even if they were trite and useless... they were still talking about the teams. This year it seems there is significantl...
by Trebla
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:54 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

It's not really a dog whistle if the non-dogs are hearing it. Everyone can hear it, but if you grew up supporting a Republican and just KNOW that the democrats are evil (or vice versa, picking this particular perspective for ease of wording as it relates to the FL election I brought up before) then...
by Trebla
Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:30 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

To my mind the use of that particular word is a dog-whistle to fascists of various sorts. Possibly deliberate, but even if accidental it will certainly be interpreted that way by the far right. This is quite accurate. With words like "nationalism" having connotations beyond the traditiona...
by Trebla
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:43 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

Right, but if that's what he was saying, it would look much different: "The 3000 number is based on a different type of analysis; that estimate is being pushed by Democrats over more conservative estimates because they just want to make me look bad." Okay; that we can talk about. That is ...
by Trebla
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:26 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2018 Midterm Elections Coverage
Replies: 217
Views: 22382

Re: 2018 Midterm Elections Coverage

I wonder how Rick Scott is so popular... Could anyone explain? Same reasons Republicans are popular anywhere... they appeal to a conservative base. Also, Florida's economy (like most of the nation) has been on an upswing since the recovery really got underway in ~2010 or so.. Scott became governor ...
by Trebla
Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: In other news... (humorous news items)
Replies: 14997
Views: 2390174

Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

North Carolina bans using science to inform policy decisions (regarding climate) In 2012, the state now in the path of Hurricane Florence reacted to a prediction by its Coastal Resources Commission that sea levels could rise by 39in over the next century by passing a law that banned policies based ...
by Trebla
Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Could Truth be Beauty?
Replies: 32
Views: 3231

Re: Could Truth be Beauty?

I said something I took as a GIVEN... I said. “Obviously magic has to have rules.” (snip for conciseness) Too many authors and film-makers have a misguided idea that applying any self-restraint to their glorious imagination is bad. Sci Fi and Fantasy without firm structure and rules can easily devo...
by Trebla
Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:25 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Could Truth be Beauty?
Replies: 32
Views: 3231

Re: Could Truth be Beauty?

doogly wrote:wait so what you're trying to tell me is that one's taste in literature is a matter of taste

i was not ready for a truth of this magnitude before my third cup of coffee


I'll ease you into it next time
by Trebla
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:13 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Could Truth be Beauty?
Replies: 32
Views: 3231

Re: Could Truth be Beauty?

The Handmaid's Tale and Harry Potter are great examples of things I find profoundly uninteresting, yes. Certainly it's not universal, some people are happiest with self-contained stories, some people prefer an ongoing universe and story arc over multiple books or years. While you may find those uni...
by Trebla
Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:18 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Could Truth be Beauty?
Replies: 32
Views: 3231

Re: Could Truth be Beauty?

That is literally the least interesting part of a story. Depends on the story. If you removed the fictional lore, setting, or rules from The Handmaid's Tale book/TV series it would just be really bad pornography. It may be the least interesting part of individual stories, but it's the glue that tur...
by Trebla
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Vegetarianism
Replies: 45
Views: 4178

Re: Vegetarianism

No one is going to read your blog. At least I won't. Post it here if you want it to be taken into account for further arguments. I don't quite see why. As I've said, the replies I get when I argue for vegetarianism on various Internet forums mostly run in cycles (as if people heard them from some c...
by Trebla
Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:27 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Could Truth be Beauty?
Replies: 32
Views: 3231

Re: Could Truth be Beauty?

Truths can be beautiful, I suppose. Not all truths are beautiful though. The terms are definitely not synonymous in any real sense. I believe, and this could be bad interpretation by me, that this is the opposite of the intent of “truth is beauty.” No matter how ugly a truth, it is beautiful becaus...
by Trebla
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:55 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Vegetarianism
Replies: 45
Views: 4178

Re: Vegetarianism

Birds and mammals, the beings that are considered sentient by the mainstream neuroscience. Uhhh... citation needed? Far as I can tell there's no broad scientific consensus on what animals count as sentient. You can find individual papers, sure, but I see nothing resembling broad consensus by "...
by Trebla
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:33 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Vegetarianism
Replies: 45
Views: 4178

Re: Vegetarianism

As Trebla says, countless living things are killed while harvesting grains and vegetables - but it's not just insects; Countless mammals are caught up in the threshing machines also. Not to mention habitats and small ecosystems that get destroyed to create farms in the first place. And that's just ...
by Trebla
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:29 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Vegetarianism
Replies: 45
Views: 4178

Re: Vegetarianism

To me, the issue of eating meat seems similar to the issue of abortion. It's hard to argue that abortion is moral, but making it illegal is likely to make things even worse. The same goes for eating meat, except that eating meat requires many more sentient beings to be killed and, at least the ...
by Trebla
Wed May 23, 2018 11:40 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Judea Pearl's Critism of Machine Learning
Replies: 17
Views: 5121

Re: Judea Pearl's Critism of Machine Learning

Maybe I'm interpreting with my own biases, but when he says (emphasis mine)... The key, he argues, is to replace reasoning by association with causal reasoning. Instead of the mere ability to correlate fever and malaria, machines need the capacity to reason that malaria causes fever. Once this kind ...
by Trebla
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:37 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1853
Views: 322501

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

the safety driver had one job , and if it could not be done with adequate safety, the driver should have stopped. Can you give a source for this? Either the relevant laws or Uber's policy for "safety drivers"? I've heard people say that the driver is there to take over if they think somet...
by Trebla
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:06 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1853
Views: 322501

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

Choosing to be in a highly lethal device in public in order to get somewhere faster makes you responsible to not kill anyone with it. It is akin to walking around with a huge sword and swinging it around. Sure, you didn't intend to chop that person's head off that you didn't see; but as someone who...
by Trebla
Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:38 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future
Replies: 1853
Views: 322501

Re: The Thread To Remind Me We're Living In The Future

Have you ever heard the phrase 'blaming the victim'. In traffic collisions it is often the case that both parties have some culpability. Your comparison doesn't apply here. Wearing dark clothing on a road at night =/= wearing a miniskirt to a party Completely correct. A traffic "accident"...
by Trebla
Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:34 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

Hillary had choices available to her that most women don't. She didn't have to carry Bill's baggage. If Bill was along for the ride it was because she saw value in keeping him close. Despite his proclivities. However this has become pointless. That's pretty pessimistic... "She loved him despit...
by Trebla
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:31 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 31782

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

My point is that it's inevitable that we are going to win the war against racism (and sexism and transphobia). It's not a question of how we can win that war, but how we can win it sooner. There are plenty of plausible (if improbable) ways to imagine this not happening, at least not for many genera...
by Trebla
Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition
Replies: 177
Views: 31782

Re: Let's talk about race, 2017 edition

deprecate all headstones of those who didn't wear blue. I am unexplainably amused by the thought of walking through a cemetery and seeing half the gravestones with lines drawn through them. (I know this was a typo for "desecrate", but it amused me). You live in a far different world than ...
by Trebla
Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:24 pm UTC
Forum: Gaming
Topic: Hearthstone
Replies: 590
Views: 129492

Re: Hearthstone

Frozen Throne has renewed my interest more than any other expansion I think. I like that the meta has mostly slowed down... maybe 20% of my matches (around rank 10) are against aggro decks. Control Reno-style priest deck has been the most fun deck I've played since Naxx.
by Trebla
Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:59 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

Quoting from a friend: The key thing in my statement "Absent any higher collusion" If the Trump campaign actively sought out Russian help in the hacking of the DNC servers and Podesta's emails then yes there is clearly a difference. But Don Jr. simply going to a meeting, as it has been po...
by Trebla
Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:04 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 124
Views: 33401

Re: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News

Trebla, your timeline for autonomous cars is a tad off........ That direction itself seems to be a bit of a dead end. Projects with ambitions beyond the highway rely on detailed, annotated and regularly upgraded 3d mapping. That is a kind of a halfway point in between augmented roads, and purely se...
by Trebla
Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:07 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News
Replies: 124
Views: 33401

Re: AI discussion from The Darker Side of the News

Computers are pretty good at recognizing something and reacting accordingly. Road curves, turn. Someone moves in front of you, stop. Two decades ago (maybe even one) this would have been a ridiculously absurd statement. I won't say a machine will be able to replace a plumber in any short time frame...
by Trebla
Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:13 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: HR1313 - Workplace Collection of Genetic Information
Replies: 11
Views: 5025

HR1313 - Workplace Collection of Genetic Information

HR1313 Relevant section (emphasis mine): (b) Collection Of Information.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the collection of information about the manifested disease or disorder of a family member shall not be considered an unlawful acquisition of genetic information with respect to anothe...
by Trebla
Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:54 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

Commentary: Donald Trump's wiretap tweets raise his risk of impeachment by Noah Feldman The argument may be logical, but it's wishful thinking. He's already said it... he could shoot someone on the street (especially if they were a minority... ZING!) and still have support of his followers (and eno...
by Trebla
Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:39 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

From a security standpoint, isn't it actually worse to use email hosted on someone else's server? At least with your own server you're ultimately in control of the data. You're leveraging a much larger security system that's much more likely to be patched for any vulnerabilities. It's quite likely ...
by Trebla
Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:23 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 211010

Re: Citizen's Wage

I know this is going back a page or so and doesn't deal with the socialism vs capitalism discussion recently dominating this thread... But I saw this article today that highlights some of the same things we did in the previous couple pages also drawing a direct correlation between the potential shif...
by Trebla
Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:47 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Trump presidency
Replies: 7987
Views: 614418

Re: Trump presidency

But uhh Dubya was a threat to many institutional norms in America. Like how we vote, remember how we voted and then didn't get to actually have a President Gore? We didn't have a President Gore because Al Gore didn't win the election. He lost Florida by a slim margin, demanded a recount - and the r...
by Trebla
Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:27 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Abortion - Trump Thread Split
Replies: 21
Views: 5232

Re: Trump presidency

Unwanted children in general is also a problem in many communities. But the line is drawn at birth for some people, between "human" and "tissue". Pro-life supporters simply draw the line earlier. Once a baby is born, it is literally a crime to abandon the baby. Pro-life supporte...
by Trebla
Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:17 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: Abortion - Trump Thread Split
Replies: 21
Views: 5232

Re: Trump presidency

IMO the only hope for the Democrats is to recognize that they might be on the wrong side of history regarding abortion. That does not mean they have to oppose abortion. But they have concede to that the right to abortion should be decided at state-level by democratic vote rather than be imposed by ...
by Trebla
Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:12 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: First Tesla Autopilot Death
Replies: 304
Views: 50987

Re: First Tesla Autopilot Death

Tesla cleared by investigators Not necessarily the most re-assuring results... selective quotes from the article: Tesla’s self-driving software, known as Autopilot, has proved adept at preventing Tesla cars from rear-ending other vehicles, but situations involving crossing traffic — as was the case...
by Trebla
Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:22 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: 2016 US Presidential Election
Replies: 8482
Views: 1025768

Re: 2016 US Presidential Election

Do you know why every fucking banking site asks you "secret questions" like "What is your pet's name"?? Because it technically counts as two-factor authentication. This is a strongly regulated field as it is. Unfortunately, people don't actually understand what a security postur...
by Trebla
Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 211010

Re: Citizen's Wage

Forty-two husks per house, two husks per meal, 2190 husks for a year's worth of crops. 4380 husks are in circulation. Sunlight is free. Everything evens out; there is perfect equality. The husks circulate freely, so sometimes the builder will pay the cook extra for another meal, or the cook will pa...

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