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by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:55 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 29167
Views: 1608025

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare: Well.... I don't know what to say. I could see my lynch coming all day, but there was nothing I could do to prevent it. Once people have you pegged as scum, it's really hard to shake it. I feel somewhat vindicated that everyone voting for me early in the game were scum. Somehow ...
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:04 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 29167
Views: 1608025

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare III:
Spoiler:
Can I read these now? It's not as if anyone will believe me.... :P
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:03 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

You don't need to bother. Scum will win if you vote for me.
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:10 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Sorry. I have a bad habit of assuming I'm town. So I know that we both aren't scum. Still, I would think that the probability of us both being scum would be low. It makes little sense for me to pick out my scum buddy.
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:59 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I've had modly confirmation that I could not be redirected. Dim could be a miller, but if they are, they deserve to die. It can be dismissed. I'm not following your logic. If it comes from point of view that I'm scum, but 3/4 the non-lynched player survives when I'm scum, how does it come from scum|...
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:19 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Disregarding that I have engaged you, If I know you are scum, why should I engage you? Because it makes the game more fun? Why do you think I continue to discuss things with you? Because a part of you thinks I'm town? :) How does Dim's analysis make sense? I'll go through it, step by step. Case 1: ...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:55 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Disregarding that I have engaged you, If I know you are scum, why should I engage you?
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:50 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Well, why dont we analyse the possibility that we are all town, and mpolo just kills a random person each night? Its a possibility, right? /s
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:34 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

But they are not possibilities, and even if you count them, you should discount them for your conclusion.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:35 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Wow. Wrong.

Case 1: irrelevant. There is no possibility we are both town.
Cases 2/3: If the town person gets lynched, town loses. If scum person gets lynched, town person likely dies in the night.
Case 4: Ok...we give a power to scum. But this isn't the case anyway.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:09 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I was assuming that any role not focused on one side or the other would have been put on vanilla town, as the setup normally includes them. So 2 masons and inventor would be put in. I'm not sure how that would have been balanced for scum though. Maybe mpolo thought there were too many docs? Not like...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:42 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

1. Sabrar as Regan — Killed N1: one-shot doctor 2. Znirk Sabrar as a Servant 3. freezeblade kalira as the Duke of Cornwall 4. SDK as Edgar – Killed N3: Wizard 5. SirGabriel as the Earl of Gloucester: Killed N4: Mason 6. Gopher of Pern as King Lear 7. Madge as Oswald 8. BoomFrog as The Fool — Killed ...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:31 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

1. Sabrar as Regan — Killed N1: one-shot doctor 2. Znirk Sabrar as a Servant 3. freezeblade kalira as the Duke of Cornwall 4. SDK as Edgar – Killed N3: Wizard 5. SirGabriel as the Earl of Gloucester: Killed N4: Mason 6. Gopher of Pern as King Lear 7. Madge as Oswald 8. BoomFrog as The Fool — Killed ...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:11 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I would assume that there would be little changes from the standard set up. Snipped the quote (before you accuse me of taking things out of context again). You still do not provide an explanation for specifically thinking zero T. That is a scum-slip due to TMI (too much information). I had forgotte...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:20 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

You were the one who said madge should target plytho. I was going off your top thing. If you want to check madge, get her to target me. I will not die during the night, and you can decide who claims first. If dimochka had a falseclaim that involved a targetable ability, she could have targeted dimoc...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:55 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I really only suspected them yesterday. I copped YOLO night 1, Boomfrog N2, and Madge N3. I had them all down as scummier than Sabrar. Last night I had my special action, so I did not get a choice as to who I would get.
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:09 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

plytho, you thought I were coaching three people. They can't all be scum. So I'd been coaching town too? Sabrar, at this stage, I would feel that Madge is more likely GF if you come back as town. And your thinking is that the gift will not be immediately useful. I did have a bulletproof vest they wa...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:42 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 29167
Views: 1608025

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare:
Spoiler:
I apologise Sabrar, if I seem a bit harsh. Either you already know why, or you'll know when I flip.
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:41 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

EBWOP: you have absolutely no idea what goes around in my head. To call me a brick wall is insulting and does not endear me to you. When you constantly ignore my points, it is like talking to a brick wall. Of course, if you are scum, well played. There is little to no risk for a NL. Even assuming m...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:18 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Again and again you misrepresent me. Yet you do not state how. Yet again, I meant it that way! Misrepresented again. Not that it matters. No one sees you for what you are. No one else is putting in the effort. You still have not named a single thing since day 1 that cannot be explained by me being ...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:16 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 29167
Views: 1608025

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Shakespeare:
Spoiler:
Well played Sabrar. I don't think I'm going to beat you; your reputation is too good for that. But I think you are going to find that reputation take a dive after this.
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:14 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Again and again you misrepresent me. Suppose you are. You only replaced in at the beginning of day 2. Meaning dimochka had no contact with you as a scum buddy yet. Yes, I can see them forgetting that you had replaced Znirk. It's plausible. No, I started attacking you once you starting misrepresentin...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:34 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

- Your claim is not consistent with previous content, dimochka's claim is. - Your 'misdirection' is very low-key and I doubt it would make scum specifically think that you're not Cop. - You have way too much wine. - Your play is inconsistent with previous town!GoP as in by now you would be attackin...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:49 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

With my cop, they have 0 T's, which gives them both of roleblocker / rolecop. How can you be so sure when setup was modified (see inclusion of Masons and Inventor)? It is impossible to guess at the exact setup unless you already know the roles available to scum. NL might work with some stipulations...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:52 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I do not see why you think my claim is so unbelievable. The unbelievable part is you getting a guaranteed result after 3 misses. Why haven't you brought up the fact that we should No Lynch today? Because it straight up loses the game if dimochka is Town. 3-2 LYLO, scum needs only to wait until dimo...
by Gopher of Pern
Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:38 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

There is no chance that my ability was redirected. In fact, bringing up the redirection, when there has been no evidence so far of redirection abilities (aside from maybe one of Kalira's gifts), really seems like stretching. It was dimochka who brought it up. Sabrar, I really hope you are scum, beca...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:37 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

My reply is just from my memory, as I haven't had time to look through their posts yet. But yes, Kaliras interaction with Laserguy is a townie thing. If I have internet where I'm going I will look into them more closely.
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:15 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I will be away due to travel. I'm on my phone, so I won't be able to answer your question yet Sabrar. I did notice that you didn't ask for me to claim. But here it is. Dimochka is scum. They are a ghost. If there is a third, it is likely Sabrar. 1. I did not ask you to claim because you're scum and...
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:46 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

I could not get redirected, I think (will confirm), as I did not target you. I detected supernatural, and your name came up.

Your claim was also the least believable after Laserguy.
by Gopher of Pern
Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:25 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act V: The end is near, but perhaps not near enough

Vote: Dimochka

I will be away due to travel. I'm on my phone, so I won't be able to answer your question yet Sabrar. I did notice that you didn't ask for me to claim. But here it is. Dimochka is scum. They are a ghost. If there is a third, it is likely Sabrar.
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:40 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

If there is a traitor, it better not be a 3 man supernatural team. No way we can win.
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

i was going to vote a while ago. But I don't think it's necessary.

Sigh... Town is going to lose this.
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:13 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Yes, it's all wine. If we had another lynch, I'd say kill me now, just to prove you wrong. But we don't have that luxury. Fact is, scum know I'm not lying. I have an ability that will out one of them. Of course, convincing you of that, is basically impossible. Throwing out names? They're my best two...
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:33 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Will reply after I hear back from the mod. Seems I'm not allowed to continue this line of discussion. Rest assured that the fact that you lied (or 'misdirected') D2 would alone have been enough for me to catch you, my inquiries into how your pm was worded was just for going from 95% surety to 100%....
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:42 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

LaserGuy -- claims 1-shot tracker (no restrictions). Tracked plytho N3 (visited no one). plytho -- claims doc for Guild kills. Protected SirG, Sabrar, SirG. Like, I'm not misreading the above, am I? No Madge. One of plytho or Laserguy must be scum. I'll vote for Laserguy, but I'm just as convinced ...
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:41 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

@ Gopher of Pern : I ask you whether your role-pm mirrors my own in that it explicitly references both scum-factions. You confirm that. Now you state that your role-pm mirrors that of jimbob whose role-pm does not mention the Guild at all. Yes, you're 100% scum. You never said anything about both s...
by Gopher of Pern
Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:52 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

Madge, try to find scum. Unless you are godfather. In which case, damn you.

Stop listening to Sabrar. I am sure he is scum. There is no mention of 'enemy' in jimbobs role, which mirrors mine except for the 1-shot.

Vote: Sabrar
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:19 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

I find your claim the least believable. Because it feels to me Sabrar has set out to get me as discredited as possible today. If I die, I will flip town, and that will look mighty suspicious. Of course, this is all WINE, to get the scum second guessing who they kill. They have a few juicy targets. M...
by Gopher of Pern
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:49 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Shakespeare Mafia III - Curtain Call
Replies: 1175
Views: 21282

Re: Shakespeare Mafia III - Act IV looks grim

EBWOP:

The reason you found some of my actions suspicious regarding YOLO is I had copped him, as human. That's why I was hesitant at the beginning of the day to go after them.

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