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by Sabrar
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:50 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa
Spoiler:
So LaserGuy kills moody and scum wins by getting MOA mislynched.
Hopefully bessie will have second thoughts after seeing Mark's flip (MOA being GF doesn't explain moody's second result).
by Sabrar
Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:10 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa
Spoiler:
And that ladies and gentlemen is the reason why you shouldn't include hidden mechanics to your submitted role...
by Sabrar
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:44 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa I hope that makes sense. Yes, thank you. I just wasn't aware that the Cop also redirected. So what happened N2? Mark used it (presumably) on MoA and bessie so their targeting also got messed up. Did the message intended for me get blocked again by bessie's protection? Or...
by Sabrar
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:37 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa (@jimbob)
Spoiler:
@jimbob: who redirected bessie? Did you interpret wam's ability as busdriver? Because it doesn't work that way from the wording you provided. I should not have been cursed by SJ on either night due to bessie's protection...
by Sabrar
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:58 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa Did bessie get redirected independently from wam's action as well? Because as I read wam's ability it would have only affected my target. Also if bessie ended up targeting herself then why was my message blocked and not hers? And how did bessie receive the message intended for m...
by Sabrar
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:20 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa (@jimbob)
Spoiler:
Why was wam's redirection on me not stopped by bessie's rolestopper? Why was MOA's message blocked instead?
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:32 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa Town being eliminated first is a lose condition, since solo town can't lynch anyone. This is incorrect, look at the description of the role: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Underdog Underdog can join Town (when Mafia would have numbers o...
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:23 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa I'll try to explain differently. If we assume that no alignment-change is in the game (as suggested by the limits on the role-submission) then it would logically follow that win-conditions don't change either. Therefore everyone is working towards their own win-con from ...
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa Again, it's not that Mark didn't know his alignment, it's that happenings in previous days (results, roleblocks, votes, whatever) are no longer valid to determine his alignment on a subsequent day for other players. This is the main issue with all alignment-changing ...
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:26 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa It's not just about knowing whether your own alignment will change. It's how that change will affect other players (and to a lesser extent Cop-results). Say for example that Mafia is the first faction to be eliminated, after which we find and lynch SK. Now game is not ov...
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:37 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa I'm so glad I trusted bessie in the end and revealed everything to her. Normally it wouldn't have mattered because of the Lover mechanic but this way she has all the info and can call LaserGuy to account if he doesn't follow the plan because I'm dead. Is Town really at L...
by Sabrar
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:23 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

Vicarin: I suppose it hasn't. I need to wait for preconditions to use it, and my guesses haven't been the best so far. If scum hear about it, then it won't work. How do your guesses figure into this? Do you have to guess correctly who's trying to kill you??? Why not just claim the exact ability sin...
by Sabrar
Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:28 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

If me, moody, Mark are all town, and none of the results have been redirected or anything (which is the first case LaserGuy was considering), then LaserGuy being town would force SuicideJunkie to be scum and for there to be a GF, presumably an SK. This is incorrect from your pov, it would be possib...
by Sabrar
Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:23 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

@Sabrar: using the roleblock isn't actually too dangerous as far as I can tell, as it'd require me to hit a scum member which isn't performing a kill for it to end up making it worse for us than it would be otherwise Unless the kill is unblockable. Similar to how GF might have been added to compens...
by Sabrar
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:29 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

Speculation - Nobody is taking responsibility for the 2nd nk so it must be scum-controlled. We don't have room for a Vig and Town should have already come forward to help us clarify the situation. - I am assuming that Mafia doesn't have access to a factional mechanic that modifies their nk (not incl...
by Sabrar
Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:27 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

{Mark, MoA, wam} also doesn't explain my result unless you want to admit to being scum :P. No, MasterOfAll might be GF in that scenario. I need to wait for preconditions to use it, and my guesses haven't been the best so far. If scum hear about it, then it won't work. If scum submitted your ability...
by Sabrar
Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:44 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

Can you explain this in more detail? He was a pretty obvious protection choice for me seeing as I know what ability he has. Why wouldn’t Mark be protected? mpolo had a town lean on Mark. Vicarin replaced mpolo during the night with sufficient time being there to submit his own action, so mpolo's ch...
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:20 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D3)

I originally thought BoomFrog was poisoned N1. He was an unlikely nk-target N2 because scum knows he's a very good candidate to mislynch after wam's flip but he was in the townie-block N1. However he was protected N1 by Mark, so that can't be possible. Vig-shot? @ Vicarin : moody stated that his abi...
by Sabrar
Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:11 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018 @ BoomFrog : so we were both wrong about the other... Sorry but this made me too paranoid. :( I prepared this for you during the night: A slight scum lean D1 is nothing to write home about. I don't see how you see inconsistency in this read. "nothing" extra scummy...
by Sabrar
Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:47 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

@Sabrar: You are either wam or Mark are town then No Lynch is better. If you are town, you are letting confirmation bias run rampent. MoA could be GF. Moody could be scum and lying, there could be a GF and one of Mark/wam is town. Why do you have LG so solidly not-mafia but not solidly town? I'm pr...
by Sabrar
Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:18 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

@Sabrar: are you aware of/willing to share anything that might indicate why you didn't receive a message? I have a possible explanation why I didn't receive the message but revealing it right now wouldn't be beneficial to us. We are essentially in a deathy. @Sabrar: Why are you not trying to break ...
by Sabrar
Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:05 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

@ plytho : similar to D1 you have been focusing most of D2 on a single player. That doesn't seem familiar from previous town!you. @ BoomFrog : I had a couple questions for you here . @ LaserGuy : could you give an updated read-list, irrespective of Cop-results? 1) He can protect somebody, but that p...
by Sabrar
Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:49 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

Because wam is lynch-bait. He's always scummy, and I've seen nothing extra scummy about him this game. But it was enough so you put him second scummiest here . You can't have it both ways. Well if the gift switcher dosn't cooperate then we know they are scum, since it's an obviously beneficial move...
by Sabrar
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:55 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

I think Mark is the most likely vote-off Why not wam (who is currently leading)? Why have you been against a wam-lynch all game? You keep making excuses to not vote him. The one time you actually voted him (when you switched votes with every other post) you immediately moved away from him when he w...
by Sabrar
Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:34 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa (@dimochka)
Spoiler:
Thank you for the feedback, happy to continue this after the game.
by Sabrar
Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:40 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

Madge would likely feel guilty about letting her teammates down if she were scum and would have voted by now. Plytho please move your vote. This seems false. Madge likely went to bed around here where she wasn't yet in too much danger and we don't even know she was online. We also don't know whethe...
by Sabrar
Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:17 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

Which means from my perspective Mark and MOA must be scum. No consideration is given here for mpolo's result on MOA and myself. Not mentioning it later either. Clear indication of scum. The one gap in Sabrar's logic is the possibility of a godfather (which would register as 9-2 while being 8-3) oth...
by Sabrar
Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:23 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D2)

I did not receive a message from anyone. For the time being I have nothing to share about any potential night results. I am still waiting on some answers from the mods which is irksome. @Sabrar: do you really expect that kind or early mutual bussing between wam and MoA? I expect wam to be able to bu...
by Sabrar
Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:31 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018 So Mark and MoA already claimed that they have no info about the voting shenanigans wrt wam and BoomFrog. This obviously implies that they did not submit those powers. This is in clear violation of rule 7 and should be punished heavily. #sarcasm Isn't rule 7 just the best? I wo...
by Sabrar
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:23 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018
Spoiler:
And BoomFrog could probably be the third for trying to move the lynch away. I don't think I'll ever be able to trust him.
by Sabrar
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:12 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D1)

I honestly have no idea what you expected from me. First I expected you to actually look for scum, prod people, ask questions, provide opinion. Then I expected you to explain why you haven't done so. I still don't have an answer to this. @ SuicideJunkie : as bessie explained already explained No Ly...
by Sabrar
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:50 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D1)

Having availability issues (unfortunately will continue tomorrow as well), apologies for the briefer post. I appreciate all answers, if I don't react to them right now it probably means they are satisfactory. This game is supposed to be fun, and for me, posting some fluff makes it more fun. I'm tota...
by Sabrar
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:34 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018 Keeping with the '1 game-post = 1 Gojoe post' format it is now time for my usual rant. My ability is to invent things but the more exotic the effects the more likely that it will include some drawbacks. Unfortunately there is basically no indication of the severity or the n...
by Sabrar
Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:10 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D1)

Changing the structure for hopefully better readability. bessie @Sabrar – Categorically like Madge in Chaos? I do not wish to answer this question for the time being. As others have noted, moody jokes easily as town or scum, and is self aware that he is opening with the usual bessie-townie-meta joke...
by Sabrar
Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:13 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018
Spoiler:
So I was getting a little bit impatient, sue me :D
It's already Sunday here though so technically I kept my word...
by Sabrar
Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:11 pm UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D1)

Regarding modifications to submitted roles/flavor: I don't want to reopen old wounds, create new ones and rant. So here is my general opinion and I hope to leave it at that: - it is possible that all flavor was 'medievalified' and it would be a shame because why would you say "Holid...
by Sabrar
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:30 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018 So if you couldn't already tell I'm experimenting with something new. For a long time I wanted to try out the post-restriction invented by bessie for me here and this game looked like the perfect opportunity. At the last moment I backed down because it seemed to be too much...
by Sabrar
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:28 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (D1)

- not gonna handle Gojoe posts, SuicideJunkie is not a newbie and has followed a few games here so he could be faking it based on previous discussions about townie-slips - plytho's opening post is null - moody gets a townie-point for the joke (bessie's FoS for the same is understandable...
by Sabrar
Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:41 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread
Replies: 32959
Views: 2680365

Re: The Gojoe Memorial Mafia Discussion Thread

Secret Santa 2018
Spoiler:
Town Inventor with no hard limits on what I can create. Though that might change soon once the mods see my questions.
by Sabrar
Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:12 am UTC
Forum: Mafia
Topic: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (N5)
Replies: 591
Views: 49167

Re: Secret Santa 2018: A Christmas Knight (pregame)

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