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by Thrasymachus
Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:08 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Sortition (split from 2016 US Presidential Election)
Replies: 70
Views: 17932

Re: Sortition (split from 2016 US Presidential Election)

The trouble with shortening the campaign season, by either keeping the election date a surprise until a month beforehand (like that won't be leaked to those with the power to bribe the bureaucrats who organize it) There are easy ways to make it leak-proof. For example, The Queen presses a button on...
by Thrasymachus
Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:01 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Sortition (split from 2016 US Presidential Election)
Replies: 70
Views: 17932

Re: Sortition (split from 2016 US Presidential Election)

In any reasonable sorition-based demarchy, it would be highly unlikely for a Donald Trump to even be considered for the Chief Executive position in the first place. Frankly, it's pretty absurd we have popular elections, even ones filtered and distorted through an Electoral College, to choose that po...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:22 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Sortition (split from 2016 US Presidential Election)
Replies: 70
Views: 17932

Re: Sortition (split from 2016 US Presidential Election)

Voters might go for the best self-publicists rather than the most competent - making it worst than a purely random selection. In fact, I could see it devolving into an X-Factor type vote-off... As opposed to our current electoral system, where you've got the best self-publicists who've also got the...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:24 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

You know, as much as Yet Another Discussion tm re: determinism terrifies me, I'd feel really silly if I didn't point out that the difference between a bacterium moving along the gradient of light because their biochemical machinery directed them to -- and me posting here because my biochemical mach...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:23 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Morality arises together with the capacity to choose. Choosing is not simply doing. Most creatures do not exhibit behavior that can be meaningfully characterized as having been chosen. The bacterium doesn't choose to move along the gradient of light, or sugar, that's just the way the biochemical mac...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

A moral (or more appropriately, normative) problem is a problem of action. It is a question of the form, "What should I do in light of the situation I'm facing." Fundamentally, there's no difference in kind between the question, "I've just found my wife in bed with my best friend, sho...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: How will society handle robots and AI?
Replies: 290
Views: 66225

Re: How will society handle robots and AI?

Here come the artificial house-elves!

(And the sooner the better. I'm tired of folding my own socks and washing my own dishes.)
by Thrasymachus
Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:14 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Children's Suffrage
Replies: 233
Views: 75464

Re: Children's Suffrage

Voting is a dumb idea in the first place. People don't know their own preferences. There is a vast disconnect between what people say they believe/want, and what people do. This disconnect is even bigger among children, who often don't even understand causal reasoning. One of the most common convers...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Yes, we do not have duties to rabid dogs. Any duties which pertain to a situation that has a rabid dog in it are to other persons (either specifically or generally) or oneself. Mostly, you shouldn't torture a rabid dog for your own pleasure because that makes you into a kind of person who tortures f...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Suffering is not an absolute evil, though. Some suffering is usually a requirement for making things better. Exercise, to a certain degree, hurts . It's also a near requirement for remaining fit and healthy. If it were possible to be arbitrarily fit and healthy without exercise, and without any othe...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:34 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

There have been and are innocent people who's homes and livelihoods are destroyed for the mere convenience of other's luxury. And there have been are people out there who really and truly deserve death, and worse, for how they've treated others, who are nonetheless happy and powerful and even respe...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:26 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Well, if nihilism works for you, then go for it. Many people open their veins when they let the full, crushing meaninglessness of their own existence bear down on them. And like I said, Kant takes things too far sometimes. He argues that we need the belief in universal, individual redress in order t...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

I have trouble understanding this notion of "justification". I mean, no matter how much better things get, it will always be that case that between years xxxx and yyyy billions of people have lives filled with nothing but suffering. What difference to their lives does it make if totally d...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:00 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Religion: The Deuce
Replies: 5301
Views: 600760

Re: Religion: The Deuce

Immanuel Kant, after disposing of all the traditional reasons for believing (and disbelieving) in the existence of a god, provided a practical reason. Basically, it comes down to needing some sort of reason to justify it all. By "it all" I mean all the prior and ongoing injustice, horror a...
by Thrasymachus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:43 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warming?
Replies: 1714
Views: 319390

Re: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warmi

Only if the opponent's credibility is not relevant to the argument. Did you even pay attention in the freshman class that discussed informal fallacies? And your evasion increases the probability that you don't know the answer, and are not, in fact, qualified to be making these distinctions and argum...
by Thrasymachus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:28 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warming?
Replies: 1714
Views: 319390

Re: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warmi

You all are being much more generous with Mr Oldberg than I would be. This "critique" has all the hallmarks of a crackpot. The claim of "peer-reviewed" for a paper that cites Wikipedia, the use of language in a technical field in a very non-standard way, the introduction of quest...
by Thrasymachus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:50 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warming?
Replies: 1714
Views: 319390

Re: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warmi

Thrasymachus: I'm confused. On Aug 15 at 10:56 am you state that "The mere presence of terms in an argument which can be equivocated is not evidence that equivocation occurs." However, according to Wikipedia'a article entiled "Equivocation" (U.S. edition), "to equivocate&qu...
by Thrasymachus
Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:42 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warming?
Replies: 1714
Views: 319390

Re: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warmi

I appreciate when authors give links to their extended works. I recall an article posted on phys.org on behalf of one Dr. Eugene McCarthy, who submitted what he called a theory on the origin of Homo sapiens , claiming that we are the result of an ancient hybridization between Sus scrofa and Pan trog...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:11 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warming?
Replies: 1714
Views: 319390

Re: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warmi

A conclusion from an argument containing polysemic terms is an equivocation fallacy if and only if it is misleading. Actually, no, that's a begging the question fallacy. You don't look at the conclusion of an argument to determine whether it commits the equivocation fallacy at all. You look at the ...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:56 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warming?
Replies: 1714
Views: 319390

Re: Is it possible to have a rational debate on global warmi

That's not how the equivocation fallacy works. The mere presence of terms in an argument which can be equivocated is not evidence that equivocation occurs.
by Thrasymachus
Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:30 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Pseudo-demand, Pseudo-supply
Replies: 105
Views: 29320

Re: Pseudo-demand, Pseudo-supply

Granted, but I prefer to take the approach of fixing biases, rather than accepting them. Sure, a three year old needs supervision....while we're educating the three year old to be an adult. We don't see any need to accept his biases as fact, and build the world around him...and I think the same att...
by Thrasymachus
Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:45 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Pseudo-demand, Pseudo-supply
Replies: 105
Views: 29320

Re: Pseudo-demand, Pseudo-supply

I'm surprised no one's pointed out that Xerographica's idea fails in its most basic assumption. Consumers are not perfect estimators of their own preferences nor of the value of those preferences. In fact, in many domains, they're markedly worse at estimating and valuing their own preferences than s...
by Thrasymachus
Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:15 am UTC
Forum: Science
Topic: AIs and Animals
Replies: 43
Views: 16110

Re: AIs and Animals

By 'consciousness', as Copper Bezel said, I mean sentience rather than sapience - basically the ability to go "ouch" and mean it. Meaning it is sapience, though. Sentience is just the ability to go "ouch." Sapience is the ability to go "ouch" and judge/explain that &qu...
by Thrasymachus
Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:27 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: How will society handle robots and AI?
Replies: 290
Views: 66225

Re: How will society handle robots and AI?

I wonder if looking at the sheer productivity of an AI, or any technology, really, is the best way to come to grips with their social impact. It seems to me that the effects of tech on specialization would give a better picture. The size of the population puts a cap on the level of specialization an...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:52 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Demarchy
Replies: 65
Views: 24764

Re: Demarchy

I have no qualms with Greenpeace and Monsanto buying ad space to defend their point of view on GMOs, but I have trouble with them supporting or attacking a candidate via ads they pay for. If they buy ad space defending their point of view on GMOs in the lead up to an election where the candidates t...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:05 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

Jobs are services people want or need, anything that adds value to lives. No, they are not. They are an income. People need an income, jobs provide that income. Jobs are not work. Work doesn't necessarily pay, and when it doesn't, it's not a job. There is always room for more labor, always. Again, ...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:35 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Demarchy
Replies: 65
Views: 24764

Re: Demarchy

NHL seems to handle the salary cap just fine. Let's copy their method. Your second objection is new to me. In France, third party interests do not finance that kind of ad, and I think if they did, it would be considered cheating on the campaign financing rules. We have stronger laws against lobbyin...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:14 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

In the current economy, people who wants to work, will get a job and work. It's very hard to argue with people who are this dishonest. It is a simple, undeniable fact that there are not enough jobs to go around to everybody who wants one in the current economy, and there is no realistic, concrete c...
by Thrasymachus
Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:55 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

Again, does CW suggest that it'll increase the production of the basket of good to match the increase of the demand of meatloaf? Demand for goods are not infinite, but neither is supply. Under the current economy, I'll say that the supply and demand of goods is close to equilibrium, and while there...
by Thrasymachus
Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

(and Goods are limited in this economy, unless you want to argue otherwise.) I would certainly argue that most consumer goods are not produced at capacity and I have, and continue to maintain, that demand for those goods is not infinite. So your scenario where there's only one piece of meatloaf lef...
by Thrasymachus
Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:50 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

You keep saying hyperinflation, but have provided no argument as to how it would occur. Hyperinflation is not normal inflation, it is accelerating inflation. A revenue-neutral CW, one not funded by ever-increasing deficits, has no mechanism to produce hyperinflation. At worst, it produces moderate i...
by Thrasymachus
Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:17 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Demarchy
Replies: 65
Views: 24764

Re: Demarchy

Campaign spending caps run afoul of two basic problems. The first is basic inflation. Every few years, you'll have to go back and raise the cap to account for the simple fact that the money you allowed in previous elections doesn't buy as much advertising and organization anymore, or you'll have to ...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:26 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

A decline in worker productivity, which a CW would undoubtedly cause, only implicates a decline in overall output if nearly every worker who can be employed is employed. Lower worker productivity entails a lower per-unit profit margin on output. This incentivizes greater output to maintain or increa...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:02 am UTC
Forum: Movies and TV Shows
Topic: Man of Steel
Replies: 84
Views: 30107

Re: Man of Steel

I liked the film. Good action (maybe a bit too much) and the plot wasn't god awful or anything. As an origin story it did quite well I think. The only part I didn't really get was why Zod was such an ass about Earth. Firstly he said he had been to other colonies and found them all dead. Tends t...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:03 pm UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: "One Million Moms" protest new cartoon SheZow
Replies: 69
Views: 37237

Re: "One Million Moms" protest new cartoon SheZow

My little girl runs around pretending to be Superman and Batman all the time. She even wears her Superman/Batman costume while she does it. I must be subverting cultural values by allowing such deviant cross-dressing behavior. Not that I care. I'm hoping I can convince her little brother, when he's ...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:52 am UTC
Forum: News & Articles
Topic: IRS Discrimination, AP logs, and Benghazi
Replies: 131
Views: 16897

Re: IRS Discrimination, AP logs, and Benghazi

How Rosen got the classified information is important though. It's not as though he mentioned in an offhand way that he'd really like to see what's in those files. He gave the leaker a detailed plan for how he could leak the information to him, on top of encouraging him to commit a serious crime. If...
by Thrasymachus
Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:50 am UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

If it's paid for, then it can only cause inflation by increasing velocity. Velocity has limits. And an increase in velocity won't necessarily cause inflation if it's accompanied by an increase in production. In the current environment, with the US economy operating below productive capacity, output ...
by Thrasymachus
Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:13 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Demarchy
Replies: 65
Views: 24764

Re: Demarchy

On the contrary, I don't really fall for the hype. There are some very good elected politicians out there, from my perspective. Others might not share that perspective, though, and I'm not interested in subverting or undermining the representation of those perspectives because I think I'm right and ...
by Thrasymachus
Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:24 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Citizen's Wage
Replies: 942
Views: 252637

Re: Citizen's Wage

One can easily justify a 10% redistribution of GDP merely by noting that wage's share of GDP has dropped by about 10% in the last 30-40 years.
by Thrasymachus
Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:04 pm UTC
Forum: Serious Business
Topic: Demarchy
Replies: 65
Views: 24764

Re: Demarchy

Tell that to Mitt Romney, John Kerry, Al Gore, and the 435 Candidates who lost their campaigns for the House last year. I don't have to. Barack Obama already told Mitt Romney, and George W Bush told Kerry and Gore. Unless you're seriously going to claim that Barack Obama and George W Bush aren't co...

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